Set Sync Point

[Michael1962]

I see that you can set markers in the preview window for multicam. I either set a marker with a photo flash or audio which ever works for that event. I am looking to set with audio this time not sure how edius 6 does that. What I am looking for is to display the waveform in the preview window. Unless there is a different or better way in edius to do this?
Thanks Mike

[pjsssss]

You cannot get a waveform in the Player monitor. There are several ways to sync video for multicam depending on how you shoot. If you are manually syncing them by audio any sharp sound such as a clap will make it very easy to sync.

[CentralEurope]

if you synch over audio waveform: gorget not, to set the waveform view to "linear (%)"

default it is set to "log (dB)"

more about it, on:

http://ediusforum.grassvalley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16693&highlight=linear

friendly greetings from the "inhouse-librarian" ....located in CentralEurope ;-)

[Michael1962]

But how do you mark the audio clip where there is a spike in the waveform if you can't see it? I see you can view the waveform on the timeline and place a sequence marker there but that is not on the clip itself it on the timeline. Unless you are saying that I have to manually slide the waveform and eyeball them. I can't imagine there is no way to mark audio in edius. But I could be wrong.
Thanks Mike
Here's a video of what I am talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7aBlNJY8lo

[pjsssss]

If you are using multicam, why use the Player monitor?
Bring your clips to the timeline (I much prefer using V and A tracks). Expand the audio tracks and then simply line up the audio. Works very well and very quickly.

In general, trying to do any audio type editing in the Player monitor with Edius is a waste of time.

[CentralEurope]

there is no way to mark audio in edius.

that is unfavorable, but it is absolutely correct..... I'm sorry to say this ...

there are many feature request's about this ... here and ditto in the german GV-forum ... null and void

[PaulTV]

Yep, ludicrous preview monitor with no audio waveform, been requested for years and ignored for years.

Paul :-)

[Michael1962]

If you are using multicam, why use the Player monitor?
Bring your clips to the timeline (I much prefer using V and A tracks). Expand the audio tracks and then simply line up the audio. Works very well and very quickly.

In general, trying to do any audio type editing in the Player monitor with Edius is a waste of time.

So you are says yes I have to eyeball the waveform on the timeline?
Are you also saying there is no way to put a marker on a video or audio clip once it is on the timeline?
I understand technically that I could eyeball the waveform but not very efficient I hope this is not the case. Used to do that in studio9 7 years ago.
Thanks Mike

[pjsssss]

That is correct. You can put a clip marker on a clip by adding it to the Player monitor and then hitting V there to add the marker. That marker will stay with the clip when you then bring it down to the timeline.

[SRsupport]

The need to add clip markers on the timeline has been discussed. I think Brandon is right that people have to call tech support so the "need" for these things can be counted.

It would make the clip markers a 1000 times more usefull. The thing is if you want to add extra clip marker during an edit you have to double click the clip to bring to the player window and then bring it back to the timeline via an overwrite.
Not very streamlined.

[rando]

I usally just do it by ear of course im doing weddings I dont know what kind of work your doing.

[Ron Evans]

I do 4 camera theatre shoots and do all my syncing on the timeline. I use exclusively VA tracks for this very reason. I actually switch in to multicam mode and thus can see all the tracks, roughly move them into sync, switch back to normal mode, expand timeline to about 10 frames and sync. Then return to multicam mode to fine tune the sync. Audio cannot be trusted for full sync as audio on non genlocked consumer cameras can be out more than a frame. I confirm that all movement is in sync in multicam mode.

For audio I export the audio from each track and edit in Vegas then bring back in to an audio track and mute all the audio on the VA tracks.

Ron Evans

[Bob Nilsen]

I've been syncing two or more cameras since RexEdit and Edius V1. I find the best way is by sight, a flash, but sound will do. Simple, just find a location/time that both cameras recorded, if it's a flash, that great. Once you have the flash frame, (on cam1) go to frame view and make a audio node on the audio track. Then zoom out again and find the same frame on cam2. Zoom in to frame view and make a node on cam2 audio track. Now zoom out so you can see both nodes and line them up. Once they are close, zoom back in to set them to line up. I use the same method when adding extra cameras. The most I have ever used, was six. I had 6 audio tracks with ambient sound and 6 tracks of wireless. Once all was in sync, it was just a A/B Roll edit.

Bob

[Michael1962]

Well, I synced it the old fashion way by eyeball LOL. Takes longer. You guys are familiar with this style. I still say it is not efficient. If you watch my video from liquid it takes me less than 15 seconds. If Edius is used in a lot of broadcast stations time is money and markers work faster.

My Sync Video from Liquid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7aBlNJY8lo

Thanks Mike

[pjsssss]

No doubt we all wold like a way to audio sync. Plural Eyes was talking to GV, but I don't know if anything ever came of it. Multicam is rarely much of a concern for broadcast as they rarely shoot anything with 2 cameras unless it is a show.