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    Hi friends!

    I have Edius 6.02 / Vistitler / Vitascene / New Blue FX Video Essentials 11 installed. I have the HDspark plugged into a marrantz receiver and then outputting hdmi to a pioneer monitor.

    I captured my HDV video to the highest HQX codec. Playback from the timeline with no effects or transitions added plays fine. Once it hits a transition it runs slow , playback is choppy and effect is worse.

    Is my pc too slow? i thought the hdspark would help with the processing load.

    my pc is

    windows 7 64bit
    core2quad 3.5gig overclocked
    8 gigs DDR2 1066 sticks
    ssd for programs
    3 1T drives striped for READ only
    3 1T drives striped for write only
    1T for back up

    whats my bottleneck the CPU? Is there any settings in Edius i can try to help with this?


    thanks,
    Chris
    Proud user of EDIUS!

  • #2
    I think you need an i7 processor if you are using HQX (not sure why though). The GV hardware cards will not do anything for helping processing.
    Last edited by pjsssss; 02-21-2011, 05:35 PM.

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    • #3
      HDV should play without a hitch on your system.
      I'd avoid HQX Highest Quality and stick with HQ standard for HDV.
      No one will notice the difference.

      Not sure I understand your RAID setup.
      Is it 6 drives or 3 in RAID0
      Rusty Rogers | Films
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      • #4
        Originally posted by baddgsx
        Hi friends!

        I have Edius 6.02 / Vistitler / Vitascene / New Blue FX Video Essentials 11 installed. I have the HDspark plugged into a marrantz receiver and then outputting hdmi to a pioneer monitor.

        I captured my HDV video to the highest HQX codec. Playback from the timeline with no effects or transitions added plays fine. Once it hits a transition it runs slow , playback is choppy and effect is worse.

        Is my pc too slow? i thought the hdspark would help with the processing load.

        my pc is

        windows 7 64bit
        core2quad 3.5gig overclocked
        8 gigs DDR2 1066 sticks
        ssd for programs
        3 1T drives striped for READ only
        3 1T drives striped for write only
        1T for back up

        whats my bottleneck the CPU? Is there any settings in Edius i can try to help with this?


        thanks,
        Chris
        Just wondering why you are converting HDV to HQX. HDV is only 8bit and HQX gives you the option for 10bit and lossless. If you are converting to max quality HQX you have some major file sizes there to deal with and process.

        When I upconvert my HDV footage I upconvert to HQ (not HQX). It is very difficult to find a difference in quality between the HDV and the HQ even at standard quality. It plays great and is good for a few layers and RT transition even on my lower level quad than what you have. I have a C2Q 2.6 (no overclocking) with DDR2 memory and single eSATA drives (no raid). I have no problem getting RT effects on my HQ files even with a few applied.

        Maybe try the HQ codec for your upconversions. I bet you will get much better performance with the system you have setup there.
        Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

        Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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        • #5
          I will start converting to HQ files then. I thought that if i convert to HQX at highest its easier for the prcoessor to do the processing.

          I have 6 drives , 2 pairs of 3 striped.

          Thanks for the help!

          Chris
          Proud user of EDIUS!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by baddgsx
            I will start converting to HQ files then. I thought that if i convert to HQX at highest its easier for the prcoessor to do the processing.

            I have 6 drives , 2 pairs of 3 striped.

            Thanks for the help!

            Chris
            My understanding is HQX and HQ are both frame based formats but HQX allows custom resolutions, 10bit and lossless. The big thing you want for performance is frame based files. HQ will do that with smaller file sizes. My HQ files come out to about 30-40gb per hour in standard mode and you can't tell a difference from the original (except that they edit easier). Unless you are doing pretty high end crazy stuff HQ should be plenty. I also don't think 10bit matters unless you are starting in 10bit with your source footage and HDV can't do that to my knowledge.

            I could be wrong on some of that regarding the 10bit and HQX but I bet HQ will get you editing nicely on your setup.
            Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

            Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Philip
              My understanding is HQX and HQ are both frame based formats but HQX allows custom resolutions, 10bit and lossless. The big thing you want for performance is frame based files. HQ will do that with smaller file sizes. My HQ files come out to about 30-40gb per hour in standard mode and you can't tell a difference from the original (except that they edit easier). Unless you are doing pretty high end crazy stuff HQ should be plenty. I also don't think 10bit matters unless you are starting in 10bit with your source footage and HDV can't do that to my knowledge.

              I could be wrong on some of that regarding the 10bit and HQX but I bet HQ will get you editing nicely on your setup.

              yea , HDV is only 8 bit 4:2:0

              so , the lowest setting on HQ is ok to use without seeing loss in degration. Do you remember what the options for HQ are? im at work so i cant check. did it go , standard , fine , superfine or somethin.
              Proud user of EDIUS!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by baddgsx
                yea , HDV is only 8 bit 4:2:0

                so , the lowest setting on HQ is ok to use without seeing loss in degration. Do you remember what the options for HQ are? im at work so i cant check. did it go , standard , fine , superfine or somethin.
                Select HQ standard. You don't need fine or offline. Standard is good.
                Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Philip
                  Select HQ standard. You don't need fine or offline. Standard is good.
                  will do! Thanks , much appreciated!

                  Chris
                  Proud user of EDIUS!

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                  • #10
                    You should be able to process HDV native. I always did on my system. Was quite happy running 4 streams in multicam on Edius 5.5. The only time I have gone to HQ is for AVCHD.

                    Ron Evans
                    Ron Evans

                    Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 NVME OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 16T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, MSI 1080Ti 11G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro, Shuttle Pro2

                    ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS X, 9.5 WG, Vegas 18, Resolve Studio 18


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ron Evans
                      You should be able to process HDV native. I always did on my system. Was quite happy running 4 streams in multicam on Edius 5.5. The only time I have gone to HQ is for AVCHD.

                      Ron Evans
                      native? .m2t ? Edius plays those files ok?
                      Proud user of EDIUS!

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                      • #12
                        Yes I have always used native files from my FX1. We now use EX3 and three AVCHD but before was two FX1's and AVCHD cameras. Only used HQ for AVCHD. HDV and EX3 always native.

                        Ron Evans
                        Ron Evans

                        Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 NVME OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 16T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, MSI 1080Ti 11G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro, Shuttle Pro2

                        ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS X, 9.5 WG, Vegas 18, Resolve Studio 18


                        Cameras: GH5S, GH6, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V x 2

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                        • #13
                          What's the story with two RAID's on your system? One read, one write? What does that mean?

                          BTW, HDV native (on tape) is .m2t. Just another flavor of mpeg2.
                          Rusty Rogers | Films
                          >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
                          >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

                          An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
                          Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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