Fade in and Fade out

[Pete]

In E6 my fade in and fade our buttons are grey out, any idea what I've done wrong.
I've highlighted the track, inlcudng the alpha channel and done everythting I can think of.

For the record I've now doe two projects with E6, and am really liking it.

My main concern prior to using E6 I thought was the layouter, and indeed the new work flow, however are both working wonderfully.

With the Layouter, I can't see any degragation in quality. I use PSD (photoshop) 1440x1080 73DPI ?. I have panned them, close ups etc. The only degration come as when I zoom in to much, but other wise very happy. The work flow,the tutorials generarlly answer most questions.

regards
Pete
Big Picture Media Productions
Melbourne

[pjsssss]

Do you have a track selected?

[GrassValley_SL]

Fade in and out unfortunately only works with track selection.
You need to activate the track header.

[mattie]

pardon me for having an opinion! Seems you can only post comments if they cheerlead features even if you dont like them

[GrassValley_SL]

What are you talking about?

[Pete]

Thanks pjsssss and Grass Valley, no I didn't have the track seleceted. All good. Again thanks
regards
Pete

[GrassValley_SL]

No problem I know this is confusing because most other stuff works on clip selection.
Hopefully this will also work on clip selection in the feature. :)

[GrassValley_MD]

Who was that pointed at? It seems to have come out of left field.

pardon me for having an opinion! Seems you can only post comments if they cheerlead features even if you dont like them

[hermannn17]

Fade in and out unfortunately only works with track selection.
You need to activate the track header.

This is a pain when dealing with many tracks. It would be less of a problem if you could select the track by clicking in the track itself (hate to say it, but like 5.5) instead of having to click in the header each time. Sounds minor but kinda a nuisance.

[GrassValley_SL]

It is actially the same instead of clicking the track you now click the header.
The floating selecting caused many issues that's why it is moved to the header because click on a track could accidentally shift the selection now it is a "delibrate function".

Also very important we can select multiple tracks and perform actions which is something which could not be done in EDIUS 5

[hermannn17]

Being able to select mutltiple tracks is a nice new function

I guess my real point was if I insert a fade in/out (audio or video) it inserts it to a clip, not a whole track. So why would this function be tied to track select instead of clip select?

[GrassValley_SL]

That is a valid point which we have raised. My personal opnion is that the buttons should also work at clip selection but there is still a technical debate. :)

Example if you have 3 tracks selected cti is at 00:10:00 . You want 3 clips to fade in at ones (animated matte)

Before this you where checking something down the timeline at 15:00:00 you select a clip (selection is still active).

When you clicked home you and positioned the cti at 00:10:00 you forgot that the clip was selected.

Now you click the fade button what should happen?

If you say at cti : track selection is of higher order.
If you say at the clip: It can't because the cti is not there to adjust lenght of the fade.
Nothing? (because of 2 active selections?) This will leave many users scratching their head.

Things like these are debated and need to be worked out. It is much more complicated then it looks. :)
I am no engineer this is just an example.......

[hermannn17]

Yeah, trust me, I know putting together a functional program is an incredibly complex procedure and I for one don't want the job.

Maybe the answer is more control for the user to customize the interface and how it functions to best suit their specific needs. Perhaps all three options in your scenario are correct depending on the particular project/editor.

Since you asked though.....


I think nothing should happen. If fades are tied to clip selection (which I obviously think they should be) anyone left scratching their heads should be able to figure out fairly quickly that the clip/clips they are trying to fade aren't selected therefore nothing happened.

If the fade happens at cti and is tied to track selection, you just put a fade on clip that you didn't want to and you may not notice it, which can be very bad.

And like you said it can't happen at the selected clip 15 minutes down the timeline because the cti isn't there to designate the fade point.

[pjsssss]

Steve is right in the fact that many complaints on here are because some of these functions work differently than they did in 5. We have to remember that because multi-track editing was added many of these things HAVE to work differently (such as the example Steve suggested). One could easily get into a debate about whether things gained for this addition were worth the changes, but it is a bit of a moot point since it is a done deal.

Because of this some functions will have to be dictated by the track selection even though it may be affecting certain clips.

[BillShedoudy]

So are you saying to copy and then paste to a different track we now have to click on the header in v6?
This is a nuisance because I cut/copy and paste a LOT and it is much easier to just click where I want it to be pasted and not have to worry about the header.
Not sure I'll like it but we'll see.