Edius 6 slow and playing up...

[joveblack]

I have had E6 on my pc for about 2months now. When I first installed it I noticed it was a little slower than E5.5. Over the last two weeks I have noticed that E6 has started working extremely slow and is playing up.
I have a project in 1440x1080i I drag my clips over to my timeline. I hit play and everything plays fine. If I stop and play again from the spot I stopped the cursor. The audio and visual is off by about a second or two. If I start it from the beginning again it plays fine. It’s very painful when I edit as the audio is always out of sync. Frustrating to say the least.
What would be the issue and how can I solve the it?
If I have my sequence set at 1 second view. I hit “Ctrl 0” to view the entire sequence it takes up to 1minute sometimes to change from 1sec to total sequence. It doesn’t make a difference if I have 20seconds worth of clips or 4hrs.
What would be the issue and how can I solve it?
E6 was a little slow at the start but I could live with it considering all the changes made from E5.5. But now its taking 5min to load a project. The size of the project doesn’t make a difference. There are a few other things that don’t come to mind atm. But aver all E6 has slowed down by over 50%!
Is there something about edius that I’m not aware of from the previous versions that I making E6 run so slow?
Please help as I am up a brick wall and I have deadlines to meet by the end of the week.

[PaulTV]

Just a quick one - are you using any mp3 audio - if so, replace with wav versions of the files - all will be fine... audio plugins - vst's?

Paul

[joveblack]

Sometimes I do, but mostly wav. I have noticed that I get the same off sync issue even with wav.
No audio plugins. Why is Edius having so many issues with MP3 files?

[SoundFreak]

If you have to use MP3 make sure its CBR and not VBR !
If you want to avoid audio sync trouble, place any MP3 being it CBR or VBR on the Edius timeline and export as wave, VBR files are different in length every time you play them ever so slightly, once you convert to wave they can't change in length / time anymore, problem solved.

Each time Edius starts up a project it will check the media, if there are many MP3 files it will become slower every time you add files.
MP3 audio is often full of encoding errors as basically only Fraunhofer or Lame are good quality, use MP3val to check and repair your audio files.

[joveblack]

Ok that solves the audio sync issue.
What about E6 running extremly slow?

[SoundFreak]

Ok that solves the audio sync issue.
What about E6 running extremly slow?

Did you export all your MP3 files to Wave ?
After doing the wave export, could you save the project under a different name, inside the same folder is fine.
Just for information, compare both project file sizes and report back.

Start Edius from the new project file name, before that close Edius completely, better still, reboot the computer, is it faster now ?

if this did not speed up things, could you try the following.
I hope you have all images used in your project combined in 1 folder, if so being the case rename the folder (while Edius is closed) and start the new project file name, remember your original project file is still intact, nothing what we do will destroy it !

All images will be OFF LINE ignore this and (do not relink) and save the project (to the new file name) and close Edius.

Re-open the new file name, Edius will not ask regarding off line clips and should open fast, edit a bit, play a bit, see if this has helped in the speed.

If this indeed did help with the speed, I think it might, you either have a couple of corrupt / damaged images, or file size makes your system bog down.

Please try the above and report back.

p.s. You can always restore the original folder name for you images and start the intact project with the original project file name.
Sorry it became a bit long but at least you can try a few things in one go to save a bit of time :)

[tingsern]

Also, do you have anti-virus or anti-spyware software running in the background? If you have, please exclude the directories of the media from scanning - that should speed up things a bit too.

[joveblack]

Thanks for the posts,
I have taken everyone’s advice followed the steps and I’m still having this issue. It’s at the point that I can’t edit my footage to the beat of a song because it’s always different.
To recap,
MP3 files converted to WAV.
Mixer closed,
WAV files are CBR not VBR
And I don’t have anti virus, I have even disable all windows defender and firewall features as my editing machine is not online.
What can I do. Im almost at the point of changing to premiere because I have had nothing but problem with edius 6and I need it because it has the codecs that architect needs for bluray.

[tingsern]

Why not remove EDIUS 6 and reinstall EDIUS 5?

[joveblack]

because edius 5 does not have the codecs i need for sony architect when I am producing BLURAY.
unless you can tell me how I can get them into 5 from 6 then instruct away. :)

[Antonio]

I'm afraid that it’s likely that my reply won’t help you very much, but I have noticed that when I have to edit projects with several hundreds of clips Edius does become very slow (it has something to do with the way Edius accesses the files and hard drive latencies). Edius handles the same amount of data WAY FASTER if it’s handled to it in just a few very big files instead of hundreds of smaller ones.
Maybe this is what’s causing your problem or maybe it’s just time for a fresh install of the OS and Edius.
One last thing, I consider Edius a great application for video work but not so for audio. The audio section of Edius, IMHO, still needs allot of improvement. So I usually edit the video in Edius and then, whenever the project needs complex audio work, I do it in Vegas because, for me, it’s much faster that way (btw Vegas despite its fine audio qualities still needs allot of work as a video editor. No application is perfect!) .
Good luck with your deadlines. :)

[Antonio]

because edius 5 does not have the codecs i need for sony architect when I am producing BLURAY.
unless you can tell me how I can get them into 5 from 6 then instruct away. :)

It’s an extra step but might be worth it. With Edius 5 you can export your timeline as HDV, using segment encode, and import that into DVD Architect. It won’t mind at all, after your authoring is done it will need to render the video and audio but the finished product will be the same because its rendering capabilities are great. Due to your systems 12GB of Ram you can even assign DVD Architects process a lower priority (with task manager) and keep editing away with Edius while it finishes your blu ray. I’ve been there and done that.

[joveblack]

The thing that amazes me more than anything else Is that, when I originally installed E6 it opened in seconds It never took more than a minute and some of my projects had 20hrs of footage in them plus images, text, aftereffects files and music.
Out of nowhere E6 takes close to 5min just to open a project now I can’t get my audio to play the same. I have been reading through the forum, It seems like E6 was a premature release with a lot of issues. That’s too bad because I had a lot of issues editing in HD with 5.5 and was desperately awaiting E6 with my fingers crossed that it would be the answer to my issues. But unfortunately it’s just given me new issues.
Is there absolutely nothing I can do about my audio issue?

[Philip]

The thing that amazes me more than anything else Is that, when I originally installed E6 it opened in seconds It never took more than a minute and some of my projects had 20hrs of footage in them plus images, text, aftereffects files and music.
Out of nowhere E6 takes close to 5min just to open a project now I can’t get my audio to play the same. I have been reading through the forum, It seems like E6 was a premature release with a lot of issues. That’s too bad because I had a lot of issues editing in HD with 5.5 and was desperately awaiting E6 with my fingers crossed that it would be the answer to my issues. But unfortunately it’s just given me new issues.
Is there absolutely nothing I can do about my audio issue?

I am by far no computer expert that understands all things under the hood of Edius 6. It seems to me that if E6 worked great when you installed it and was great for a few weeks and then started bogging down the issue would seem to be something in your system and not Edius. Applications have executable files that don't get modified when you edit. Your Edius installation files should remain the same and shouldn't affect performance in any way (at least those are my thoughts as a former programmer). The application should be the same today as when you installed it 2 months ago.

However, hardware can change. Ram can start getting errors, your power supply can start doing crazy things, your RAID can get fragmented and cause problems etc. I'm not saying those are the cause but your OS is much more in a state of flux than Edius will be. Adding extra font can bog a system down at startup. Adding more programs can slow a system down. You could have a graphics card going flaky. Who knows. Your system specs certainly seem up to the task of editing smoothly.

The first thing I would look at for the slow performance would be a fragmented RAID0. I've heard when they get fragmented and/or close to full they can really bog things down. I'm thinking there has to be something outside of Edius causing the issue unless the Edius install got corrupted somehow.

Just my thoughts.

[Antonio]

However, hardware can change. Ram can start getting errors, your power supply can start doing crazy things, your RAID can get fragmented and cause problems etc.
Just my thoughts.

I 2nd that! Especially the component that usually is the culprit of many PC instability problems/ weird behavior because it’s often of lesser quality than the rest of the system: the power supply.