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  • Using 4.5 and other apps at the same time

    Version 4.51 is working great on my desktop and for the most part great on my laptop as well.

    However, on the laptop, if I have another app open like my email or even task manager, when I try to switch back to Edius it takes a long time...sometimes 30+ seconds. If I check the task manager I can see Edius is hitting the CPU for about 5-10%. If I leave the computer alone for a while Edius comes back and runs fine. I even have this problem if making a title in TMPro. I close and save the title and about 30 seconds to a minute later I get Edius back.

    Is there a setting in Edius that is slowing up the application switching or is there a BIOS setting that is affecting some things with the new Edius and app switching.

    I have already completely uninstalled and reinstalled based on instructions on this forum just in case something got corrupted on the original update.

    Thanks for any help!
    Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

    Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

  • #2
    How large is your buffer setting in EDIUS?

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    • #3
      I suspect you are out of RAM and the system is forced to use the page file, which will drastically reduce performance. Open up Task Manager and go to the Performance tab to see how much memory is being used. If the Peak Commit Charge significantly exceeds the amount of RAM in your system, the hard drive will become the bottleneck.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GrassValley_KH
        How large is your buffer setting in EDIUS?

        I initially had it set very high at 512 but I have already reduced the buffer sized down to 128. I had done this prior to posting this question thinking it may be the culprit. It is still taking awhile to refresh the screen.

        I have my desktop set to 384 and it is working fine with the same amount of RAM.

        BTW... my laptop and desktop both have 2GB RAM.
        Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

        Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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        • #5
          what is the hard disk speed result of the laptop?
          Anton Strauss
          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

          EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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          • #6
            Originally posted by THoff
            I suspect you are out of RAM and the system is forced to use the page file, which will drastically reduce performance. Open up Task Manager and go to the Performance tab to see how much memory is being used. If the Peak Commit Charge significantly exceeds the amount of RAM in your system, the hard drive will become the bottleneck.
            I have 2 GB Ram.

            My PF Usage is at 573MB

            Commit Charge (K) settings are as follows

            Total 821568
            Limit 4033676
            Peak 901264

            The very bottom of the task manager says.

            Processes 48 CPU Usage 8% Commit CHarge: 802M/3939M

            My desktop is showing a 907mb PF Usage and bigger numbers under the Commit Charge and it is working with lots of snap and quick program changes. Of course the FSB on the desktop is faster which may help. My desktop has a 667 FSB.
            Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

            Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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            • #7
              Originally posted by antonsvideo
              what is the hard disk speed result of the laptop?
              The only Hard disk speed test that I have (that I know of) is in Scenalyzer. I ran the test in Scenalyzer it came back with a write speed of 237.6 frames per second or 7.9 times RT....this is working with DV sized frames.

              Is there a better speed test to run?
              Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

              Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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              • #8
                Strange. I also have 4.5 on a notebook. Both my drives are sata.
                I have the latest chipsets drivers from intel for my note book.
                I often have a screen capture program open ftp program , brower and Paint.net.
                Work here.
                EDIUS is set to 512 buffer and I have 2 gig of ram.
                But my video card has separate 512 mb memory on board not that shared nonsense stuff which some notebook use.

                Steve
                Steve
                EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
                A proud EDIUS EDITOR
                For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by antonsvideo
                  what is the hard disk speed result of the laptop?
                  Could it possibly be a video card issue. Since the overlay is handled a different way could there be some settings in my graphics card that are causing the screen not to refresh as quickly. After all, when I am sitting waiting for Edius to come back the CPU usage is very low meaning Edius isn't working too hard. The Hard Drive light only blinks sporadically during this time.

                  Could it be a graphics card issue?
                  Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                  Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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                  • #10
                    If your video card is using that shared stuff it could be.
                    What is you graphic card and how much memory does it have on board?
                    Steve
                    EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
                    A proud EDIUS EDITOR
                    For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SRsupport
                      Strange. I also have 4.5 on a notebook. Both my drives are sata.
                      I have the latest chipsets drivers from intel for my note book.
                      I often have a screen capture program open ftp program , brower and Paint.net.
                      Work here.
                      EDIUS is set to 512 buffer and I have 2 gig of ram.
                      But my video card has separate 512 mb memory on board not that shared nonsense stuff which some notebook use.

                      Steve
                      I have the ATI RAdeon with 256mb RAM in my laptop. I have set all the graphics card settings back to default. In the process of maximizing the Edius app from the blank desktop it has taken longer than typing this note. I started typing after I clicked on Edius in the task bar and Edius is still not back and live. Oh....there it is now...it took that long to restore to full screen. I have also tried the different overlay settings to see if they affect it in any way with no luck.
                      Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                      Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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                      • #12
                        Yes, shared memory architecture integrated graphics are also possible culprits. That can eat up hundreds of megabytes of memory.

                        The other thing you can try is to reboot your system, and without loading anything else first, defragment your drive, and then create a permanent swap file, which will then hopefully be contiguous. There are also disk optimizers that can defragment an existing swap file -- PageDefrag is one that is free and very good at defragmenting system files.

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                        • #13
                          What about drivers. Does your notebook manufacturer have updated drivers for your Graphics card?
                          Steve
                          EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
                          A proud EDIUS EDITOR
                          For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SRsupport
                            If your video card is using that shared stuff it could be.
                            What is you graphic card and how much memory does it have on board?
                            I think I mentioned earlier that it is an ATI Radeon with 256Mb of RAM. I am pretty sure it is not that shared stuff. It is an actual card.

                            BTW....my laptop is a Dell Inspiron 9400. The hard drive is only a 5400RPM drive but it was working great on version 4.24.
                            Main System. MSI G33m Motherboard, Intel Q6600 CPU, 2GB Ram, GeForce 9500GT, 7200rpm System drive. WinXP. Lots of external eSATA drives.

                            Laptop. Sony Vaio. CPU- i7-Gen 3, 8gb RAM, 1tbb 5400rpm hard drive, AMD GPU

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                            • #15
                              That laptop should be fine.
                              Steve
                              EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
                              A proud EDIUS EDITOR
                              For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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