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  • Converting 720p to SD?

    OK, now I need to go the other direction. Converting a finished 720p project to SD.

    Basically what I need to know is this. I know I will need to be replacing HD clips with SD ones as well as re-adjusting titles, etc. Therefore, I need to have the timeline stay exactly as is and do a bunch of replacement/adjusting.

    (No... I don't need to output a letterboxed 16x9 SD DVD from a 720p timeline... I need to recreate the timeline using all 4x3 footage, etc.)

    Problem is, when I go to try to change the project settings from HD 720p to SD settings... there are none shown in the list to choose from. So it won't let me change the settings.

    Is this not possible?

    Thanks!
    Sincerely,

    Mike Truly
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  • #2
    Hmmm... this is a real pain. All I need is to get the empty clips from the HD project onto an SD timeline so I can refill the clips with SD footage.

    So far I haven't found any function that will do this. Recreating the timelines from scratch doesn't seem desireable.

    Thanks!
    Sincerely,

    Mike Truly
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    970.349.5651
    www.trulymedia.com

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    • #3
      Oh...You can export a Marker List from Edius but there's no way to import that Marker List into Edius? Great... just great.

      Thanks!
      Sincerely,

      Mike Truly
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      970.349.5651
      www.trulymedia.com

      System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

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      • #4
        seems to work here in Pal land

        I started a 720 25p pal project, loaded a Canopus 720 test clip

        then I can change project setting to 16:9 SD D1 or 16:9 SD DV or 4:3 etc

        they are all there
        Anton Strauss
        Antons Video Productions - Sydney

        EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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        • #5
          Anton,

          Thanks for the info. Hmmm... the menu here is blank after changing to the SD setting. Not sure why.

          I'll do a test with a simpler HD timeline and see if they show up.

          Thanks!
          Sincerely,

          Mike Truly
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          Truly Media
          970.349.5651
          www.trulymedia.com

          System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

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          • #6
            Nope. I created a new 720p project and added a single 720p HQ clip to the timeline. Went to change project settings to SD and this is what I get:

            Not sure why I am not getting this.

            Thanks!
            Attached Files
            Sincerely,

            Mike Truly
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            Truly Media
            970.349.5651
            www.trulymedia.com

            System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

            System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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            • #7
              I tried changing various aspects of the HD clip on the timeline to see if anything would make it happy and show me the SD project settings to change to, but no joy. There is no way that I can find to change from HD to SD... short of rebuilding the timelines by hand.

              Thanks!
              Sincerely,

              Mike Truly
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              Truly Media
              970.349.5651
              www.trulymedia.com

              System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

              System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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              • #8
                very strange, in my case, the window is fully populated with all the possible options

                I am using Pal and Edius 4.03

                see what you get if you try Pal
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                • #9
                  Mike what is the framerate of your HD project?
                  Because if it is 24 or 23.98 you have to go to a hardware profile of 24.
                  You can not do project frame rate switching on the fly.

                  When you go to output project profiles with different framerates will be hidden.

                  So what you should do is choose a sd profile (there are separate profile categories for 24 and 23.98) that matches the framerate of the HD project.
                  When you have done that you can export the project to a different frame rate.

                  The bill is in the mail :) he he


                  Steve
                  Last edited by SRsupport; 08-06-2007, 05:00 PM.
                  Steve
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                  • #10
                    Steve,

                    Thanks very much... I'll look into this.

                    Thanks again.
                    Sincerely,

                    Mike Truly
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                    Truly Media
                    970.349.5651
                    www.trulymedia.com

                    System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                    System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                    • #11
                      Steve,

                      Here's a shot of the project settings before trying to change to SD:

                      Then I try and select NHX-E1 SD NTSC and then the middle area is empty... nothing to select and the OK button is grayed out (cuz I haven't been able to select a setting yet).

                      Thanks!
                      Attached Files
                      Sincerely,

                      Mike Truly
                      ----------------------------------------------------------------
                      Truly Media
                      970.349.5651
                      www.trulymedia.com

                      System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                      System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                      • #12
                        Anton,

                        From my 720p simple test project... when I try to select the other project settings to change to... I get nothing.

                        The only ones that will show me the settings is the setting I am already on NHX-E1 HD 60Hz and the Generic OHCI SD NTSC. The Generic OHCI SD NTSC offers me the HDV 480/59.94p 16:9.

                        I just don't know why I'm not being offered any settings.

                        Thanks!
                        Sincerely,

                        Mike Truly
                        ----------------------------------------------------------------
                        Truly Media
                        970.349.5651
                        www.trulymedia.com

                        System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                        System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                        • #13
                          Can you please provide me two screen shots.

                          1 Try choosing a NHX-E1 24 preset to switch
                          2 when trying to choose a OHCI SD preset on switch.

                          Isn't there a separate 30p hardware profile. I am not on a nx machine now.
                          Because Progressive isn't really (technically) NTSC. (progressive over interlaced is.)


                          Steve
                          Last edited by SRsupport; 08-06-2007, 05:57 PM.
                          Steve
                          EDIUS Trainer, Grass Cutter Gold
                          A proud EDIUS EDITOR
                          For more information on the Grass Cutter program please visit: http://www.grass-cutters.net

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                          • #14
                            Steve,

                            I'm not sure I got the exact screen shots you mentioned but it doesn't matter... all of the others give me the same blank settings list (except that generic one I mentioned).

                            Thanks!
                            Attached Files
                            Sincerely,

                            Mike Truly
                            ----------------------------------------------------------------
                            Truly Media
                            970.349.5651
                            www.trulymedia.com

                            System1: Edius 7.41|Storm Mobile|Dual Xeon 3.1 (20 cores w HT OFF)|128GB RAM|Dual 512 SSDs|7TB RAID5|Dual Quadro5000s|Win7_64

                            System2: EdiusNX+Exp|Edius 6.03|Procoder3|XP32|Dual Xeon 3.6|4GB RAM|U320 RAID0 15K

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mike Truly View Post
                              The only ones that will show me the settings is the setting I am already on NHX-E1 HD 60Hz and the Generic OHCI SD NTSC. The Generic OHCI SD NTSC offers me the HDV 480/59.94p 16:9.
                              And that sounds about correct - if you start a 720/59.94p project, you will only be able to switch to an SD project of the same framerate handling - in this case 480/59.9p.

                              Now since the NX board can't output 59.94p (it needs an interlaced equivalent for the HD component output), you only get the option for the Generic OHCI preset.

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