Thank You Canopus Edius Broadcast 4.5

[Gorazd]

Hi,

Now when version 4.5 of Edius Broadcast has been released the MXF XDCAM HD
workflow reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly works and Edius Broadcast 4.5 can batch export
from MXF files to Canopus HQ AVI flies directly form bin
what previously crashed the application and the MXF workflow
was virtualy impossibile.

Previously when you wanted to batch convert for example
in version 4.24 from MXF to Canopus AVI files the application
immediately crashed.

Thank you once again. Now the MXF workflow is realy
the reality on the Edius software.

But this is stil not valid for Procoder 3 software because
it stil can not open the MXF XDCAM HD files and here no
progress was made in several months although the
Rhozet Carbon Coder the big brother of the Procoder 3
software can open such files what is also written
in the release pdf file on their web pages
but unfortunately when I wrote
several mails to them for testitng their application
( so that I can get the evluation application)
I did not received any response mail.

It looks that Procoder 3 could get the MXF support
in one day time as it is supported in the Rhozet Carbon Coder
what is also written in the release pdf file on their web pages
but unfortunately it looks that the Procoder 3 is not
serious application because after several moths of beging
for the support there is stil no upgrade patch released
for Procoder 3 application although this could be done
in 24 hours without any hasle because such modules are
allready developed.
And even when you want to test or buy the Rhozet Carbon Coder
there is no response from their company.

But I am now very lucky that I have found out
after no support at all from Procoder or Carbon Coder team
that even the 79 USD software like Pegasys Tmpeg Express
which licensed the Main Concept codecs can do much much
more different conversion and it can open any
Matrox avi file and is much superior application whith great support
including batch processing.
So now I am realy very said that I have bought the Procoder 3 application
in the past because I could invest in several TMPEG Express
applications.

And it realy looks that Procoder team is realy something else
as the serious team because it looks that they
do not make any support even when they could implement new conversions
with the allready developed modules in just 24 hours although there are statements
that Procoder 3 application can open any direct show file on their web pages.

It looks that the very responsive team is only the Edius developing team
which realy make huuuuuuge progress.

I hope that this shall change soon because even the lowcost
application like Pegasys TMPEG Express can do quite more
conversions for much leeeeeess money and it can also
convert the Matrox MXF virtual AVI files when the
Procoder 3 crashes when it wants to open such files.

I look forward to hearing from you soon and thank you
in advance.

Yours faithfuly,

Gorazd.

[Bart]

Read this ... it will solve your problem ;-)

http://ediusforum.grassvalley.com/fo...ead.php?t=1558

[GrassValley_BH]

I'm sorry that you feel that way and that they have not been in contact with you, but you cannot expect a company to give away features from their high end package for free to lower-priced packages.

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

[Gorazd]

Hello,

I agree with you 100%. Edius Broadcast 4.5 is now
everything what you need to edit and batch convert
XDCAM HD MXF files into avi files.
There is no need that someone buys additional
"low cost" Procoder 3 application.

Although it would be nice for every Matrox Axio HD
editor to have addtional Procoder 3 software for special
batch conversions because the Adobe abandoned
the batch conversion module in the Adobe Premiere PRO 2
the new Edius Broadcast 4.5 can do all that and a lot more
especialy with the MXF XDCAM HD files.
And the new Edius 4.5 broadcast application is realy wonderful.

And as you have said that you can not give away features from
your high end packages for free to lower-priced packages
so that the Procoder 3 shall not support
MXF files athough they use the direct show filter
and they can be playable via ordinary Windows Media Player
when you install the Sony basic XDCAM HD software.

On the Procoder 3 web pages it is written that it
supports any direct show file. And this is for now not true.

It would be better that it could be written that it supports
some of the directs show files or from the marketing point
most of the direct show files and not any
direct show file.

And I hope that MXF files shall be supported now and in future
only by the Rhozet Carbon Coder "high end" application for
which I stil did not received any answer from the Rhozet
team where can I get the demo version and where can I buy it
after "successful" testing althouh I have written e-mails to them.
It would not be vise that "low cost" Procoder 3 application
shall support MXF XDCAM HD files.

This is important especialy now when Sony is launching
the XDCAM EX series of the low cost camcorders which
uses the ExpressCard technology and records
XDCAM HD MXF files and shall most probably become
the most selling low cost camcorders in the future.
I have allready ordered two of them which shall be delivered
to me at the end of September.

And a lot of users who shall want to buy Procoder 3
for transcoding MXF files in to the anykind of AVI files
for better integration with their common applications
shall not be able to do this because the "low cost" Procoder 3
shall not support the MXF XDCAM HD files.

Or it "even" might in October time.
Maybe in the release 3.5
when you might decide that MXF modules which are
now allready developed and are the part of the
Rhozet Carbon Coder are video mainstream reality
and that it is time that the Procoder 3 become
the "high end" application.

What about the Rhozet Carbon Coder users then.

Why we must wait for maybe version 3.5 and October
time that the Procoder 3 become the "high end" application?

Why you do not want to sell additional 30.000 and up
Procoder 3 copies of the software and then additional
30.000 and up for the Procoder 3.5 upgrades?

Although I allready own several pieces
of the XDCAM HD gear more than one year now
and I am very frustrated that Procoder 3 stil does not
support all direct show files what it is also
written on your web pages, I am at least now very happy
with Edius Broadcast 4.5 which I shall recommend on the
Matrox AXIO forum as the only solution which improves
the Matrox EZ MXF workflow dramticly which has
on Matrox side its isuess but this is another Matrox story.

And I hope that Canopus Grass Valley shall sell in two
months time at least 10.000 Edius Broadcast 4.5 copies
to the Matrox Axio XDCAM HD editors who shall benefit from
my post and EDIUS MXF XDCAM HD workflow especialy
when Matrox AXIO HD can playback several streams of
Canopus HQ AVI HD files without rendering on the
Adobe Premiere timeline in real time.

But for now I can not recommend the Procoder 3 "low cost"
software.

Although I am not the Grass Valley sales person it does not
mean that I shoud not alow Grass Valley to sell 10.000
copies of the Edius 4.5 Broadcast software although
I could not spread the wonderful workflow post
on the Matrox Axio forum from which a lot of video editors
shall benefit and it shall benefit especialy your company.

Best regards,

Gorazd.

[pjsssss]

Wow. Long post Gorazd.

Please remember that there are some complicated business issues with Rhozet, "old" Canopus, and GV. It is further complicated by the fact that Harmonics now appears to be in the process of buying Rhozet. http://www.harmonicinc.com/ah_press_...ext.cfm?ID=683

How this will translate to Procoder and Procoder exptress, I do not know.

But Canopus and now GV, has a very good track record (IMHO the best in the business) in being the first to have wide spread support for the different camera formats as they come out. They also tend to release upgrades or modules timed with the release of the new cameras.

[GrassValley_BH]

Hi Gorazd,

ProCoder is unfortunately complicated, because while the product is a GV product, the engineering is done outside.

If I knew what the plan for ProCoder was, I'd share it. Unfortunately I do not know what the future plan is at this stage.

As for supporting "any DirectShow AVI" you will find on the new literature that "any' is now removed... We in Marketing do our best to convey accurate features, but this one changed on us as a surprise.