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    I have a project where I need to do moving screen grabs from a computer (so you are watching the TV and see someone mousing around on a website) and import them into Edius. The client provided me with some but they are a bad quality and hard to read once up on the time line (although they look better on WMP...).

    Questions:
    Is there a GOOD screen grabbing video making software that works well with edius?
    Should I just set up a video cam at the computer screen and import that?
    ANY other suggestions?

    Help appreciated... :)
    TY!
    S.
    Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

  • #2
    Camtasia works well is probably the industry standard. Anton has been using Snag It. Both are from TechSmith

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    • #3
      I second that. I am using Camtasia too - their quality is superb.
      TingSern
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      Edius 9.4 Pro, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 10 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema

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      • #4
        Yes, I believe that is what they used to send it to me... Now, I can't guess the quality or HOW they recorded it, so perhaps they made a lower quality than what I would want. I had to upload the codec for Edius, but once I did, it worked well. It's just not sized correctly or at a good enough quality.

        I see TechSmith has a 30 day trial - great - I'll do that, as I am not really sure if there is another time I'll need this. However, before I do - is there a way to make the quality better when "recording" ? settings? And if so, since I am totally a beginner here, what do you set it at for maximum quality?

        Thanks guys! I knew you all would be able to help!
        S.
        Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

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        • #5
          The codec Camtasia uses is optimised for screen grabbing. It is not 25 frames/sec or even 50 frames/sec. If I am correct, it goes at 15 frames/second. The file it produces is really small - very optimised. I re-code that into Canopus HQ first - then edit it from there. Much better than trying to drop the file directly onto timeline. I am not aware of any parameters the codec can offer you. My Camtasia is quite old now. Haven't been using it for quite a while.
          TingSern
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          Edius 9.4 Pro, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 10 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema

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          • #6
            good to know - ty
            Question - how do you re-encode into HQ without putting on time line?
            TY
            S.
            Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

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            • #7
              Camtasia just released their new version 7 a few weeks ago. It looks like it is really much better. I have not had a chance to play with it yet but if it performs as nice as it looks it will be a winner.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tingsern View Post
                The codec Camtasia uses is optimised for screen grabbing. It is not 25 frames/sec or even 50 frames/sec. If I am correct, it goes at 15 frames/second. The file it produces is really small - very optimised. I re-code that into Canopus HQ first - then edit it from there. Much better than trying to drop the file directly onto timeline. I am not aware of any parameters the codec can offer you. My Camtasia is quite old now. Haven't been using it for quite a while.
                that is strange

                I use Snagit9 the cheaper version of camtasia, and I can set uncompressed RGB codec, 25fps and I can preset size of capture window to 1440x1080 or 1920x1080 whatever I wish, I can do
                Anton Strauss
                Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                • #9
                  My version of Camtasia is pretty old. Haven't been upgrading it - don't have any projects for that. So - my information might be dated.
                  TingSern
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                  Edius 9.4 Pro, Lenovo P72 workstation laptop, 64GB RAM, Xeon CPU, Windows 10 Pro (64 bits), 2 x 2TB Samsung M2.NVME and 1 x 4TB Samsung SSD internal. Panasonic UX180 camera, Blackmagic 4K Pocket Cinema, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema

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                  • #10
                    OK- I have the log on info from my client to the website which needs the screen shots. I am going to use the trial version of Camtasia - which, from the training vids, looks like it will let you put out different sizes. (and is a full-function version too)

                    Anton - from the TechSmith site, it looks like SnagIt takes a snapshot but not a video... Am I wrong? However you'd think that if THAT software lets you resize, than Camtasia should too.

                    I'll let you know how it goes - and a HUGE TY to all the responders here :)
                    S.
                    Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

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                    • #11
                      Microsoft Expression Encoder

                      Hi!

                      Check out the Expression Encoder from MS. There´s a free version, whch gives you the possibility to grab video from your computerscreen.

                      Framerate is variable, so is the bitrate. I captured in full-HD, 25 fps, 15000 kbps this thursday, and it look extremely good.

                      Only problem is that it captures in a special codec, which you have to transcode to WMV from within Expression Encoder. This takes a bit more time.
                      The WMV´s though, are encoded with MS´s VC-1 HD codec, which MS also uses for HD film streaming on X-Box360. I couldn´t see any issues with the quality when comparing the original captured file, and the transcoded WMV(with the same bitrate).

                      Whether the full version gives you extra options as to which codec to use, I do not know, it might be worth checking out..

                      Regards,

                      Erik Hoirup
                      Commercial Producer/Director
                      HDSpark/Edius 6.03
                      Adobe Production Package Premium CS5.5

                      QuadCore 9660 4*3GHz(ASUS P5Q Deluxe), 16 Gb ram,nvidia GTX 285 1 Gb RAM- Laptop i7 GHz, 8 Gb ram - nvidia GTX440M 1,5 Gb ram :) All Intel-based

                      Panasonic HPX500E P2HD, JVC HD-110E/JVC HD-200/JVC BR50 and lots of other fun stuff :)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                        OK- I have the log on info from my client to the website which needs the screen shots. I am going to use the trial version of Camtasia - which, from the training vids, looks like it will let you put out different sizes. (and is a full-function version too)

                        Anton - from the TechSmith site, it looks like SnagIt takes a snapshot but not a video... Am I wrong? However you'd think that if THAT software lets you resize, than Camtasia should too.

                        I'll let you know how it goes - and a HUGE TY to all the responders here :)
                        S.
                        You can output different sizes. I have the latest Camtasia 7. Anton uses Snagit which I did not know recorded video. The new Camtasia is pretty impressive looking though I have not had time to use it yet.
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                        Last edited by pjsssss; 06-13-2010, 10:14 PM.

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                        • #13
                          I have the trial version of Camtasia running (full version - have all features) and am playing with every setting I can to make this work - and I have come up with a few "good" clips. If I use the Edius codec set at NTSC 740x480 and render out at 30fps, it looks the best - and looks even better when I "zoom in" and record only part of the screen at one time (in Camtasia). I can read the text on the webpage the best but it's still blurry.

                          However, I still get the "flickering" effect when importing into my editing software no matter which setting I use. If i watch on Camtasia, it looks perfect.

                          Tried top field and bottom field settings, tried different settings for project... Does ANYONE have any idea how I can fix this?
                          I'm running out of ideas....
                          Last edited by [email protected]; 06-14-2010, 03:41 PM. Reason: clarification
                          Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

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                          • #14
                            the screen capture software works progressive

                            the captures will only look good in progressive projects

                            often you are far better off using a good camera pointed at a screen with focus slightly off to eliminate scan lines
                            Anton Strauss
                            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                            • #15
                              sometimes you just need a different perspective - my hubby (computer geek that he is) says, "Why don't you take down the resolution of your monitor?"

                              UM. doh.

                              If I do this, capture just the bits I want or even just part of a screen and keep them in the Canopus Codec... MUCH BETTER. (Camtasia)
                              Very usable!

                              TY everyone for all the info. I learned a bunch yet again from everyone.

                              S.
                              Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

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