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    best canopus hq settings

    That canopus has a own codec for processor intensive formats is great but what bothers me a bit is the size of files it produces. You might say that prizes of harddisks are quite low and that storage is not an issue but to me it is somewhat. I still use a 600gb editing disk that allows me to continuously edit between 4 to 6 (hdv)projects. With the canopus codec it would be just one project.

    Is there a way to decrease the size of those canopus hq files while still retaining sufficient quality to go to dvd and hd (mpeg2 -25mbs or mpeg4 35mbs) afterwards?
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    Not that I know of.
    TingSern
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    • #3
      why not save in XDCAM EX 35mbs LONG GOP MPEG-2 format - if its good enough for Sony..... :)

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      • #4
        Why do you need Canopus HQ if you are editing HDV? Most modern computers should edit several tracks of native HDV with no problems.

        Ron Evans
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        • #5
          I agree with Ron. With today's computers, you can edit in native m2t.
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          • #6
            Well, I still have a q6600 processor and eventhough it does handle hdv without a problem I do quite a lot colorcorrection and that might affect realtime playback. I"m always a bit worried that colorcorrecting in hdv has an influence on the quality of the exported movie. As I always understood canopus hq codec, like cineforms neoscene f.i. preserves the image quality better if you do correction and then export.

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            • #7
              Your realtime playback may be affected but that has nothing to do with the rendered quality. I will let other people comment on the value of converting for a lot of colour correction etc but I have never done this just used HDV native. I have only used HQ to allow me to edit AVCHD multicam.

              Ron Evans
              Ron Evans

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              • #8
                Unless you just go berserk, adding the normal color correcting in Edius should not effect the realtime.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by noafilm View Post
                  That canopus has a own codec for processor intensive formats is great but what bothers me a bit is the size of files it produces. You might say that prizes of harddisks are quite low and that storage is not an issue but to me it is somewhat. I still use a 600gb editing disk that allows me to continuously edit between 4 to 6 (hdv)projects. With the canopus codec it would be just one project.

                  Is there a way to decrease the size of those canopus hq files while still retaining sufficient quality to go to dvd and hd (mpeg2 -25mbs or mpeg4 35mbs) afterwards?
                  4-6 projects in a 600GB drive? That's quite a few for such a small drive.
                  Yes, discs are cheap. I buy the 1.5TB when they are under $80.00 US.
                  If you are on tape, then save your projects out to tape and they'll last for years.
                  If you shoot file-based, then you need to buy drives.

                  If you need performance, capture HQ Standard... 18GB per hour of tape.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rusty View Post
                    4-6 projects in a 600GB drive? That's quite a few for such a small drive.
                    I never let my drive fill up more then 75% and my workflow has a lot of small projects that don't go over 15-20gig, I do a lot of events and that gives me about one hour of footage each time. I have a 3 year old Dell xps and when I filled it up with disks 600gb disks back then they were more expensive as 1,5g disks now. I have a 150gig raptor disk for OS and programmes, one 600g disk for all my captured files (is also temp back up for my raw files as long as I work on projects), one 600g disk where I copy all my capture files to as well and that is my editing disk and one 500g disk for all my other data.
                    I even had to sacrifice a 1 dvd player to get a disk in it's place (my dell only supports 3 disks)
                    And I have a terrabyte ext disk which containes a mirror from my editing disk, when I finish editing I use "syncbackpro" to synchronize both disks, that's my backup strategy :)

                    I never write back to tape, I only keep demo's I build for my site as 1440x1080p 25mbs files mirrored on 2 other separate ext disks.

                    My intention was to get about a year more out of my pc before I upgrade and then probably have 2tb disks installed. But for now I have to see how to cope with my current set-up. That's why I wanted to know if there any lower size canopus hq files possible as they fill my currect drives up too fast.

                    But I will try to handle "raw " m2t files first and see how that goes, I ordered edius pro yesterday so should be working on it next week. Then I have to start on a indian wedding that requires quite some color correction (color from my xh-a1 is very "flat" but I like it like that as it gives me more control afterwards) so I can put edius to the test right away. :)

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                    • #11
                      Hard Disks are cheap, Canopus HQ is a nice codec that edits beautifully in Edius. I always use it no matter what format the original, I find it easier and quicker in the long run.

                      There is always a thread on the forum about editing in different file formats to which the easiest solution is - convert/capture in Canopus HQ rather than waste time trying to something else.
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                      • #12
                        100% agree on the Canopus codec being the best for EDIUS. I always record the final version on HQ codec as well.

                        Noafilm, may I know what is EDIUS Pro? Never heard of that. Thank you.
                        TingSern
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by tingsern View Post
                          Noafilm, may I know what is EDIUS Pro? Never heard of that.
                          "EDIUS pro" as in "Canopus edius pro 5.5" :D

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