EDIUS audio hardware

[ralphaoun]

Dear friends,

We just purchased the EDIUS 4 SP bundle for our television station, and we are facing the following problem:

The two hardware boards are installed, and the drivers were installed from the EDIUS DVD too. When i enter to the Hardware Settings on my PC, i can clearly see that the HX-E1 audio driver seems to be installed and working properly ( it says, Manufactured by Canopus, Location PCI Slot 7 (PCI bus 17, device 10, function 0))

However, when i open the EDIUS software, and try to make a voice over, all i can see in the device list is my old sound driver (the one incorporated in the hp workstation) and NOT the edius audio device!

I would appreciate any help or suggestions.

Thank you

[GrassValley_BH]

The EDIUS hardware is not used for voiceover recording because it's already busy doing playback. Voiceover recording will use standard Windows-accessible sound devices.

[SRsupport]

I would suggest a professional sound device/card with xlr connection and +48 so it can power microphones when needed.
Since you are at a tv station I would suggest a souncard which you can sync to the house sync or the sync the sp is hooked up to.
The VO option is great but you need a good soudcard to use it.

SR

[ralphaoun]

Thank you for your prompt replies, however the board that i obtained with my EDIUS SP, contains many inputs, including AUDIO IN Channel1 and AUDIO IN Channel 2....so isnt it supposed to accept voice over?

Ralph

[SRsupport]

I don't think the videoboards are duplex.
I could be wrong.
When using the VO the board is playing out and thus can not record at the same time. That's why you have to use a soundcard to record the audio.


The different audio channels are for different channels of audio that come with your video out of your recorder.

[GrassValley_BH]

Correct, while the hardware will play out to all viable connections simultaneously, at any given moment it can only record from one source or play back.

Or in other words, there is only one record/play channel, and it cannot record and play simultaneously.

[7hbg]

I maybe wrong, but it looks like Ralph is referring to the 2 XLR inputs on the optional breakout box…

[GrassValley_BH]

The connections on the breakout box are the same as the ones on the multi-connector "breakout cable."

Either way, you can either (but not both):

• Record one stream (other devices sometimes refer to this as a "channel" not to be confused with audio channels) of video+audio, selected from the available video and audio inputs.
• Play the timeline out to all applicable video and audio outputs.

So, there are many input connection sets, but you can only use one set at a time (stereo audio is a 2-connector "set").

And... you can't record and play simultaneously.

[activeimage]

Being able to use the Voice-over utility to capture through the Edius SP hardware would be really useful.

We never record our voice-overs straight onto the computer, we get it done outside at a recording studio, so we never have the need to see playback whilst recording.

We had a DVRex Pro with Edius v4.02, and always captured the voice-over through the XLR inputs from a Minidisc player.

We've recently upgraded to Edius SP and are now running v4.61 software. We've just discovered that the ability to capture the way we did before no longer works. We've tried but when you play it back it's incredibly distorted - really slow with lots of clicking.

We never made any provision in the PC spec for a high grade soundcard because we didn't think we needed it. And, to be honest, why should we need to? We've just paid a lot of money for high quality audio capture in the Edius SP! It sounds just fine when we run Betacam SP into it!

Is there any possibility that playback could be disabled for those of us who just want to capture some audio into the bin, without needing to see what's on the timeline?

[SRsupport]

If you just want to capture audio use audio capture what is the problem with that?

Steve

[activeimage]

Audio capture doesn't work any more, it distorts. And it was always a bit odd before - it would only capture if we put a tape in the Betacam deck.

With v4.61, the captured audio usually starts off sounding reasonable, but with intermittent clicking, then suddenly slows right down and has lots more clicking.

All of the equipment we're using is identical to before, when we bought the new system we just did a straight swap of the cables from one PC to the other.

[SRsupport]

Strange because I have used audio capture but that is on a NX.

Maybe Anton can help you out.

Steve

[GrassValley_BH]

Sounds like the clocking is going off. Try recording with an active video signal being input (even though you're not capturing it) - this should provide necessary clock.

[antonsvideo]

when you capture audio only, be sure a stable video input is present and ref is set to input or external ref, after capture, return to internal ref

in my case, I simply turn on my betacam deck without tape inside, the TBC of the deck outputs a stable black signal

also, are you capturing 24bit or are you letting Edius convert to 16bit on the fly during audio capture?

[STORMDAVE]

Agreed with Anton, there needs to be some type of video going in so the audio won't drift.

The way I do voiceovers (for years now) with the NX and STORM is a workaround which I figured out myself.

I just start DVCapture, make sure I am getting the audio, then I go into the windows sound mixer and choose "Line In" for recording (Line In is where my NX/Storm Line Out is connected to) then I launch Auditio 2 or any other recording application and record voiceovers that way. I've done hundreds this way without any problems whatsoever. They are always clean, I capture to 48Khz/16bit audio.