Problems with Edius 4.5 exporting to 16:9

[mfblume]

I am a real newbie at all this video editing stuff. But I have been working with 4.5 and editing 4:3 videos wonderfully for DVD and flash video online, until Edius crashed. And would not start again to do any similar editing. I formatted my system, and installed 4.5 again afresh. It still seems to crash the system, unless I edit using these presets:

Generic OHCI SD NTSC
Output format: 720X480 29.97p over 59.94i 16:9
Rendering format: Canopus HQ AVI

All other presets seems to crash my system.
I have a: Pentium 4 CPU 3.06 Ghz. 2.00 Ghz RAM which has worked fine until the crashing started.


I have never edited 16:9 before, but want to do that, anyway. I want to export into a mpeg2 file with half D1 in 16:9 format, but it is exporting a 4:3 -- horizontally squished -- file. I know it is 4:3, since when I import it back into Edius it is squished at 4:3.

How can I export it in 16:9? I am using DVD-Lab pro 2 to make dvd's and wish to see DVD-Lab pro 2 import it as 16:9, but it sees it as 4:3 as it is.

Thanks!

[mfblume]

I figure I will settle for the settings that do not crash my system. But I still want to know how to export a 16:9 video from editing 16:9. I cannot find where a setting will ensure this. When I render the file it always renders to 4:3. I am sure there is a simple setting I am missing. I am really NEW at all this. So be patient with me and thanks. lol

[SoundFreak]

Hi, I read your post twice but I'm still at a loss, can't seem to find the question or reason why you want to put a 4x3 video in a 16x9 timeline and squeeze it some more from left to right.

The crashing part as far as I know can NOT be related to wrong render output settings, it just will render the file in a "wrong format" and that's just it.

Regarding the crash I would look in to the System Ram / Video Ram, either a faulty Ram stick or damaged video card (if you have confirmed using the correct driver for the gpu card that is)

p.s. If you want to fill you screen when using a 4x3 video on a 16x9 timeline use the F7 (layout) to zoom in, this of course will be at the loss of resolution, picture will become a bit fuzzy.
The next thing regarding you problem might be that your authoring app doesn't detect your 16x9 footage as widescreen but imports it as 4x3, check the authoring app project properties.

[mfblume]

Hi, I read your post twice but I'm still at a loss, can't seem to find the question or reason why you want to put a 4x3 video in a 16x9 timeline and squeeze it some more from left to right.

I must not have explained myself clearly enough. I have a 16:9 video imported into Edius, not a 4:3 video at all, as something new. I did not use 16:9 before. I had imported 16:9 videos into a 4:3 format in Edius and saw it work like letterbox. But in trying to deal with 16:9 now and importing a 16:9 as 16:9, when I render it, it comes out as a 4:3 video and not 16:9. I am making DVD's with DVD-Lab Pro 2 and it recognizes the output file as 4:3.

The crashing part as far as I know can NOT be related to wrong render output settings, it just will render the file in a "wrong format" and that's just it.

it crashes as soon as I start Edius using a different project setting, not giving me a chance to edit anything before it crashes.

Regarding the crash I would look in to the System Ram / Video Ram, either a faulty Ram stick or damaged video card (if you have confirmed using the correct driver for the gpu card)

If you want to fill you screen when using a 4x3 video on a 16x9 timeline use the F7 (layout) to zoom in, this of course will be at the loss of resolution, picture will become a bit fuzzy.
The next thing regarding you problem might be that your authoring app doesn't detect your 16x9 footage as widescreen but imports it as 4x4, check the authoring app project properties.

It is importing it as 16:9. But I am unable to render it to an output of 16:9. Thanks!

[SoundFreak]

If you have a 16x9 project it should renderout as 16x9 if you don't change the output properties in Edius.

If you are using Procoder from the 16x9 timeline it will automatically default to 4x3, make sure to select 16x9 for export, many have fallen for this trap (the 1st & 2nd time of use)

I never really looked at DVDlab much, it seem like a very capable software but maybe like WMP it doesn't detect the Canopus 16x9 flag, you might need to tell it manually, lol :)

[mfblume]

If you have a 16x9 project it should renderout as 16x9 if you don't change the output properties in Edius.

That is the issue. I never changed any output properties. Maybe I should check there, though. Where are the output properties, in case I missed them. Like I said, I am very new at this.

[mfblume]

I have output settings as follows in project settings:

Output format: 720X480 29.97p over 59.94i 16:9

BTW, DVD-Lab Pro 2 has detected 16:9 formats before, as well. But not when I render them in Edius and output them so.

Could the problem be in the Exporter Plug-in?

I selected: MPEG2 MediaEdge/HDMA-4000-SD-Half D1 - NTSC

[SoundFreak]

When you export any file from Edius it will automatically show up in the bin as a new file, right click the file and tell us what default aspect ratio is (marked by a *)

[mfblume]

When you export any file from Edius it will automatically show up in the bin as a new file, right click the file and tell us what default aspect ratio is (marked by a *)

Thanks. It says 1.8000

Is that 16:9?

[SoundFreak]

Could the problem be in the Exporter Plug-in?

I selected: MPEG2 MediaEdge/HDMA-4000-SD-Half D1 - NTSC

Not sure why you would select that profile if you want to make a regualar DVD ?

Editing 16x9 footage, and exporting it to Mpeg2 SD doesn't change it in any way from editing 4x3 and making a DVD out of it.

Please try you "normal" work flow when it comes to exporting, as that seemed to have worked before.

I'm not at my Edius machine now (iPhone still is not compatible yet) so someone need to chime in for correct settings.

[mfblume]

Not sure why you would select that profile if you want to make a regualar DVD ?

Editing 16x9 footage, and exporting it to Mpeg2 SD doesn't change it in any way from editing 4x3 and making a DVD out of it.

Please try you "normal" work flow when it comes to exporting, as that seemed to have worked before.

I'm not at my Edius machine now (iPhone still is not compatible yet) so someone need to chime in for correct settings.

Ok, thanks.

My situation is that I am filming in 16:9 and want to upload to the web in 16:9 using Flash video online. A file exported in dvd could simply be pan and scan and work fine with my material. .

[SoundFreak]

Thanks. It says 1.8000

Is that 16:9?

1.8000, Euuh, actually I never seen that before to be honest, I'm in PAL land but i'll doubt it has anything to do with NTSC.

Can you please check your original footage that that is around 1.4xx or so then export using a Mpeg2 settings for SD NTSC aspec tratio & frame rate, sorry can't give you precise figures as I'm not behind my system.

I still think it has to do with the "funky" profile you had chosen.

make sure when export you select "freshly" from the main list and not use a earlier custom preset or last used conversion settings, as they are likely to be wrong.

As you are only going from AVI to Mpeg, you don't need format conversion so don't thick "enable conversion" or something sounding like that, stay in the same aspect ratio and frame size, just choose a suitable bit rate & audio for NTSC SD DVD and you'll be fine .................

For flash I can't help as I never use those formats, some with knowledge regarding web delivery will chime in, I'm sure :)

[SoundFreak]

I have output settings as follows in project settings:

Output format: 720X480 29.97p over 59.94i 16:9

you have selected a progressive over interlaced HARDWARE project setting, this settings are for when you have a GV / Canopus video output device, and furthermore your project settings reflect PROGRESSIVE footage, are you using Progressive source footage ?

Aren't the DVD spec's "I"only for interlaced video footage ?

[mfblume]

you have selected a progressive over interlaced HARDWARE project setting, this settings are for when you have a GV / Canopus video output device, and furthermore your project settings reflect PROGRESSIVE footage, are you using Progressive source footage ?

Aren't the DVD spec's "I"only for interlaced video footage ?

Like I said, I know little about all of this. I do not even know what progressive footage is. Sorry. :) But those settings I chose made an Mpeg file that was workable with my dvd-lab pro2. Maybe there are other settings more specific to my use. These presets would not crash Edius on me, so I used them.

I have downloaded some video files from my Sony camcorder into my PC and import them into the bin for use. No big production deal. Lectures.

So whatever presets would be best is great. And I only wish to output files so I can convert them to flash with flash CS3 for online use, and also import them into DVD-lab pro 2. So far all is working fine with the settings I have.

Can you give me recommendations?

I just discovered that when I render using MPEG (Generic) (under F11) it outputs a 16:9 file.

[antonsvideo]

Edius5 and later has an ES (elementary stream exporter) which is ideal for use in DVD Lab Pro

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/html/elementary-stream-export.html

I recommend you upgrade to Edius 5.5