Can't output timeline to stand alone DVD burner

[merrick61]

This is an odd one. Everything works fine and both DV inputs seem to work fine EXCEPT when I attempt to output to my Lite-on or Panasonic standalone DVD burners. They just dont recognize the DV signal when the timeline is playing. I tested to see if the cable and the acutal connector were working and when I hooked up my deck to the DV inputs they did see it. Why dont the stand alone DVD burners see it? I have Edius 4.03. When I was using Edius 2.5 I was able to output the signal to these DVD burners.

Anybody experience this?
Thanks
Merrick

[mike0130]

DVD recorder Panasonic DMR-E820 works PERFECTLY for me almost 2 years. The oly difference that i use EDIUS 4.x, before it was 3.x
Your problem is that you don't have Canopus hardware, right?
mike

[merrick61]

Right

I dont have a board in you are right Just OCHI firewire. But now that you mention it, my Edius 2.5 had a storm card inside and that did work ..

Hmm, but a firewire siganl is still being output (even w/out Canopus hardware) and DV camcorders and decks see it. Why not the DVD burners??

[Ron Evans]

I have a Panasonic E15 that works just fine through the DVRaptor RT2 but will not be recognised by the PC so will not work with OHCI output from EDIUS. Most DVD recorders are iLInk ( 4 pin ) and I don't think are configured to respond to identification request from the PC and have no drivers, so don't work. They are set up to request identification from the camcorder to automatically burn a DVD, the opposite of what is required!!!! We are lucky that Canopus boards don't seem to care what is on the end of the cable, as long as the recorder is started they will run output from the timeline.

Ron Evans

[merrick61]

Thanks

ron
If I got the break out box which converts DV to analog I think its the ACDv110 or soemthing like that do you think that would fix the problem ?So the set up would be DV out from the computer to the Dv of the break out box then anolog out(from the box) to the DVD burner...

Possible solution?

[tingsern]

I have a question for you folks - why are you doing this? So hard work. Why can't you just convert the timeline into MPEG2 and burn it as DVD video? Isn't the quality better this way?

[antonsvideo]

I have a question for you folks - why are you doing this? So hard work. Why can't you just convert the timeline into MPEG2 and burn it as DVD video? Isn't the quality better this way?

yes, correct

most DVD recorders produce non DVD compliant DVD's and don't understand 16:9 and don't understand 720px width, especially Panasonic, they create 704px width

[Zorro]

I have a question for you folks - why are you doing this?

There are situations where a job has to be done really fast. In such a case outputting to a DVD recorder makes perfect sense.

[Zorro]

Anton,

most DVD recorders produce non DVD compliant DVD's

This one is a solid solution:

http://www.jvcproeurope.com/uk/pub/item/index_html?item=BD-X200E

[merrick61]

Actually its good to be able to have both options..the software and hardware. I have never had any compliant issues with the stand alone burners. Virutally all customers want simple 480I DVDs (non high def, non widescreen) and there is no faster way to burn them , than with a standalone unit! no rendering...no second steps of burning them with another software program, etc. Just press record and your in real time
Quality issues in highest quality mode is excellent and in most cases even in 2 hour mode is very good....

[Ron Evans]

The Panasonic gives a very good encode, in my estimation a lot better than Procoder Express from the timeline and for a 2 hour program is twice as fast. I can encode, transfer back to the PC and author quicker than my AMD X2 4200 can encode from the timeline by over an hour( two pass is necessary to get anywhere near the quality of the DVD recorder). IT is just for these long times that the DVD recorder has a better encode. At 2 hours and 40 mins the Panasonic still gives a really good encode. I can also watch the disc on a bigger TV than my monitor to see if I like what I have done before I author.
I had the issue of 16x9 but it was really my fault. The output from my E15 does not letterbox when monitoring the recording but on playback it does!!! After figuring that out I have not had a problem.
The analogue input of my older Panasonic E30 was 704 but the newer E15 through the iLink input is the full 720x480 (at least that is what Edius thinks it is when looking at the file info). The one pass variable bit rate for the last 2 hour program I did has max of close to 9000 and min of just over 2000 with the average around 4000 as expected for the time. I use it for the time saved but frankly for the long programs I do it has a better encode.

Ron Evans

[merrick61]

So Ron if I get the breakout box for the Canopus which does the Dv to analog converting, that would enable me to output analog to the DVD burner right?

[Zorro]

This is an odd one. Everything works fine and both DV inputs seem to work fine EXCEPT when I attempt to output to my Lite-on or Panasonic standalone DVD burners. They just dont recognize the DV signal when the timeline is playing.

Have you checked all menu settings? Some DVD recorders allow recording from a device other then a camera/deck but you need to change something in their menu.

[Tobe]

Can anyone list a specific stand-alone DVD-R recorder that will accept the firewire output from Edius time-line with a storm card to record? I can get them all to accept S video or A/V video, but no firewire. I've never seem a menu item to correct for this...

[SRsupport]

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