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  • #16
    Originally posted by Ulisse View Post
    Again .... now I have understood fine that method. It is a good option for some short clips but not for 1 hour documentary. I think to use an external software is better.
    Thanks
    From what I understand of your requirements you have an old documentary in 4:3 and you want it in 16:9. the actual format of the file does not matter you can have a 16:9 AVI it doesn't have to be m2t.
    However like the others have already said you will loose quality by scaling the image.
    I can also see your point about the "wings" technique being unsuitable for a whole documentary; we often get 4:3 archive footage from clients who want to display it in their new museum gallery on their new widescreen monitors, we always re-scale, they just don't like the "wings" they want the whole screen filled with the image, the loss in quality does not bother them.
    Edius does as good a job as any other software of re-scaling.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Stereodesign View Post
      we often get 4:3 archive footage from clients who want to display it in their new museum gallery on their new widescreen monitors, we always re-scale, they just don't like the "wings" they want the whole screen filled with the image, the loss in quality does not bother them.
      It is my opinion too. I think to use some Edius filter is possible to limit the loss in quality. I have done this post for some suggestions about a pisible external software or using Edius filters.
      thanks
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      • #18
        Originally posted by andrew_hd View Post
        Save as AVI and done:) It should be faster than RT.
        Thanks very very much for your suggestion.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by andrew_hd View Post
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          1. Video/set Full Processing Mode
          2. Video/Color Depth set to YUY2 for input and output.
          3. In Compression tab Canopus HQ with RGB has 601 ColourSpace.
          4. Next add resizing and use Lanczos (make sure you tick intelaced if your source is interlaced). You have automatic option to crop into desired aspect ratio. If you not happy with result, than there is cropping function in the filter tab where you can reframe your video to have 16:9 aspect ratio. In the resize tab you have to change to proper PAL/NTSC frame size.
          5. Next add sharpening and use valuse 8-20- there is preview in RT so you can see how much is applied- don't put to much.

          Save as AVI and done:) It should be faster than RT.
          Andrew
          I have just done a test but I get a problem:

          In the Filter Tab on New size "Absolute" I have written 1920 x 1080
          In Aspect ratio Compute height from ratio I have written 16:9

          In Framing option i have chosen "Crop to aspect ratio" I have written 16:9

          But when I save my film as .avi file, then I always get a 4:3 file. Nothing has changed. Where do I mistake, please?

          Then ..... I don't see the PAL/NTSC frame size Option, where is it precisely?

          thanks
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          • #20
            Originally posted by andrew_hd View Post
            In Size option set your desired size: PAL/NTSC or HD- this will be the final size of your output video.
            In Aspect Ratio set Disabled.
            In Frameing Options set Crop to aspect ration and type 16:9
            Andrew
            I'm sorry but I renounce to make it:
            I always get 4:3 file size ... in my VirtualDub v.1.9.8 there isn't PAL/NTSC or HD option.
            Thanks for your availability.
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            • #21
              Is your source material SD 4X3 and you are trying to convert to HD 16X9?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Khoi Pham View Post
                Is your source material SD 4X3 and you are trying to convert to HD 16X9?
                My source is SD 4X3 and I'm not trying to convert to HD 16X9 because the quality of image will deteriorate more. I like to get a SD 16X9 with the best quality possible.
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                • #23
                  Then why did you set it like this

                  "In the Filter Tab on New size "Absolute" I have written 1920 x 1080
                  In Aspect ratio Compute height from ratio I have written 16:9"

                  set it to 720X480 or whatever your pal format is and do like Andrew HD said and disable aspect ratio, and set crop to aspect ration and type in 16X9 in frame option like Andrew HD said, I don't have VD install on my computer right now but that sounds about right from what I remember.
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                  • #24
                    I always get 4:3 file size
                    You always have a 4:3 frame size in sd, whether or not its 16:9 or 4:3 is determined by the horiz pixel aspect ratio, either the player will set the proper aspect if it recognizes the WS flag or you have to do it with the display's controls.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Blast1 View Post
                      You always have a 4:3 frame size in sd, whether or not its 16:9 or 4:3 is determined by the horiz pixel aspect ratio, either the player will set the proper aspect if it recognizes the WS flag or you have to do it with the display's controls.
                      I have unistalled VirtualDub and installed again. After havig configured fine Resizing, now in Filter Tab I see:
                      Input 320x240 (RGB32) Output 720x405
                      When I save as .avi file I see 4:3 size again. mmmmm
                      Don't waste your time with me please. ;) ;)
                      I don't take interest to do it anymore.
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                      • #26
                        !

                        "Don't waste your time with me please. ;) ;)
                        I don't take interest to do it anymore."

                        God give me strength!

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