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    I know this has been beat to death, but I have read twice on this forum that Edius ver 5.12 will not burn true HD bluray...so when I print to disc and select BD....I'm not really burning a true BD disc ???
    thanks,
    john

  • #2
    The only way to print "true BD" discs is to invest in equipment and licensing that costs thousands of dollars.

    The BD discs that EDIUS creates is pretty much playable on almost all BD players. The created discs are part of the BD spec (AVCHD).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by trottnow View Post
      I know this has been beat to death, but I have read twice on this forum that Edius ver 5.12 will not burn true HD bluray...so when I print to disc and select BD....I'm not really burning a true BD disc ???
      thanks,
      john
      The cheapest 'true' blu-Ray software is do studio. The full
      setup with encoder is $5,000. Then on top of that you have
      the license per title.
      Encore CS4 will give you close results with popups, but it does
      not have the java specs.

      If you are using Edius as your main DVD/blu-Ray authoring
      tool, and you expect true bd specs, you need to realize that
      you are using a cursory authoring program with limited
      features.
      Any of the authoring programs available will create playable
      BD's, it's the big boys, Scenarist, BluPrint, DoStudio that will
      make 'true' BD's, but all can make bd's for distribution. It depends
      on the features available in the authoring program.
      Jerry
      Six Gill DV
      www.sgdvtutorials.com
      If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

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      http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


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      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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      • #4
        Jerry I just love it when you talk specs to me!! LOL

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GrassValley_MD View Post
          Jerry I just love it when you talk specs to me!! LOL
          You must be getting tired of that post. I must have
          said the same thing in at least 10 replies.
          I need to just make a standard reply and copy and
          paste it each time.
          Jerry
          Six Gill DV
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          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

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          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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          • #6
            Or put it in your signature. :D

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            • #7
              I like that one Dave :)
              Jerry
              Six Gill DV
              www.sgdvtutorials.com
              If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

              Vistitle YouTube Channel
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              Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
              http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


              Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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              • #8
                ok ok .....one last thing !
                I guess all are saying that bells and whistles and menus aside.....the actual HD quality of the print to disc doesn't compare to these more expensive authoring programs???

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by trottnow View Post
                  ok ok .....one last thing !
                  I guess all are saying that bells and whistles and menus aside.....the actual HD quality of the print to disc doesn't compare to these more expensive authoring programs???
                  The video quality will depend on your source material
                  and the encoder output quality. I don't use edius to
                  encode. I use PC3 and for h.264 I use multipass
                  settings in the adobe cs4 encoder.
                  You can make a really good looking disc (video quality) from print to disc, It just won't have
                  the big boy functionality and look. If you are doing these
                  for final products for sale, they will be very basic.
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    thanks jerry.... and all

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                    • #11
                      I've done 3 real projects to BD so far and the quality of the encoder in EDIUS is pretty good.

                      At ~20mbps, it looks very close to the original source.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                        The cheapest 'true' blu-Ray software is do studio. The full
                        setup with encoder is $5,000. Then on top of that you have
                        the license per title.
                        Encore CS4 will give you close results with popups, but it does
                        not have the java specs.

                        If you are using Edius as your main DVD/blu-Ray authoring
                        tool, and you expect true bd specs, you need to realize that
                        you are using a cursory authoring program with limited
                        features.
                        Any of the authoring programs available will create playable
                        BD's, it's the big boys, Scenarist, BluPrint, DoStudio that will
                        make 'true' BD's, but all can make bd's for distribution. It depends
                        on the features available in the authoring program.
                        Is one of "big boys" ,sony dvd architect? I think, it makes true blu-ray disk.
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                        • #13
                          No. I think Jerry's refering to a program that you can master with. You can not master with DVD Architect.
                          AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, AMD Radeon 6800XT, 64GB RAM, EDIUS X WG.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by shueardm View Post
                            No. I think Jerry's refering to a program that you can master with. You can not master with DVD Architect.
                            The ones that master:
                            Scenarist. $25000 to $50000 depending on configuration
                            Blu Print. $50000
                            Do Studio $5000

                            Dvditprohd will master but it does not offer popup menus
                            or java coding as the more expensive ones .

                            Encore, as of CS4, does not offer mastering. I would hope
                            that will be added in CS 5. It does offer popup menus but
                            once again no java.

                            DVD architect works well but has no mastering or, as far as I
                            remember, no popup menus.
                            Jerry
                            Six Gill DV
                            www.sgdvtutorials.com
                            If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                            Vistitle YouTube Channel
                            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                            Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                            http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                            Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                            Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
                              I've done 3 real projects to BD so far and the quality of the encoder in EDIUS is pretty good.

                              At ~20mbps, it looks very close to the original source.
                              I agree Stormdave, the quality out of Edius is pretty good, I have always been happy with their Blu Ray output ,I have tried many of the other programs and to much stuffing around with them. I really don't think my customers can tell the difference.

                              Steve
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