blu-ray confusion

[trottnow]

I know this has been beat to death, but I have read twice on this forum that Edius ver 5.12 will not burn true HD bluray...so when I print to disc and select BD....I'm not really burning a true BD disc ???
thanks,
john

[STORMDAVE]

The only way to print "true BD" discs is to invest in equipment and licensing that costs thousands of dollars.

The BD discs that EDIUS creates is pretty much playable on almost all BD players. The created discs are part of the BD spec (AVCHD).

[Jerry]

I know this has been beat to death, but I have read twice on this forum that Edius ver 5.12 will not burn true HD bluray...so when I print to disc and select BD....I'm not really burning a true BD disc ???
thanks,
john

The cheapest 'true' blu-Ray software is do studio. The full
setup with encoder is $5,000. Then on top of that you have
the license per title.
Encore CS4 will give you close results with popups, but it does
not have the java specs.

If you are using Edius as your main DVD/blu-Ray authoring
tool, and you expect true bd specs, you need to realize that
you are using a cursory authoring program with limited
features.
Any of the authoring programs available will create playable
BD's, it's the big boys, Scenarist, BluPrint, DoStudio that will
make 'true' BD's, but all can make bd's for distribution. It depends
on the features available in the authoring program.

[GrassValley_MD]

Jerry I just love it when you talk specs to me!! LOL

[Jerry]

Jerry I just love it when you talk specs to me!! LOL

You must be getting tired of that post. I must have
said the same thing in at least 10 replies.
I need to just make a standard reply and copy and
paste it each time.

[STORMDAVE]

Or put it in your signature. :D

[Jerry]

I like that one Dave :)

[trottnow]

ok ok .....one last thing !
I guess all are saying that bells and whistles and menus aside.....the actual HD quality of the print to disc doesn't compare to these more expensive authoring programs???

[Jerry]

ok ok .....one last thing !
I guess all are saying that bells and whistles and menus aside.....the actual HD quality of the print to disc doesn't compare to these more expensive authoring programs???

The video quality will depend on your source material
and the encoder output quality. I don't use edius to
encode. I use PC3 and for h.264 I use multipass
settings in the adobe cs4 encoder.
You can make a really good looking disc (video quality) from print to disc, It just won't have
the big boy functionality and look. If you are doing these
for final products for sale, they will be very basic.

[trottnow]

thanks jerry.... and all

[STORMDAVE]

I've done 3 real projects to BD so far and the quality of the encoder in EDIUS is pretty good.

At ~20mbps, it looks very close to the original source.

[sashamed]

The cheapest 'true' blu-Ray software is do studio. The full
setup with encoder is $5,000. Then on top of that you have
the license per title.
Encore CS4 will give you close results with popups, but it does
not have the java specs.

If you are using Edius as your main DVD/blu-Ray authoring
tool, and you expect true bd specs, you need to realize that
you are using a cursory authoring program with limited
features.
Any of the authoring programs available will create playable
BD's, it's the big boys, Scenarist, BluPrint, DoStudio that will
make 'true' BD's, but all can make bd's for distribution. It depends
on the features available in the authoring program.

Is one of "big boys" ,sony dvd architect? I think, it makes true blu-ray disk.

[shueardm]

No. I think Jerry's refering to a program that you can master with. You can not master with DVD Architect.

[Jerry]

No. I think Jerry's refering to a program that you can master with. You can not master with DVD Architect.

The ones that master:
Scenarist. $25000 to $50000 depending on configuration
Blu Print. $50000
Do Studio $5000

Dvditprohd will master but it does not offer popup menus
or java coding as the more expensive ones .

Encore, as of CS4, does not offer mastering. I would hope
that will be added in CS 5. It does offer popup menus but
once again no java.

DVD architect works well but has no mastering or, as far as I
remember, no popup menus.

[swsw1550]

I've done 3 real projects to BD so far and the quality of the encoder in EDIUS is pretty good.

At ~20mbps, it looks very close to the original source.

I agree Stormdave, the quality out of Edius is pretty good, I have always been happy with their Blu Ray output ,I have tried many of the other programs and to much stuffing around with them. I really don't think my customers can tell the difference.

Steve