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  • Is realtime really realtime?/Printing to tape

    Well I am now a proud pappa. Father to my very own Edius Broadcast 4 software that is. lol Still alot to learn but I have noticed two instances where the realtime playback is questionable.

    1. When I print to tape via firewire (generic firewire card) The tape stops as soon as it encounters an area with more than one layer of HD footage (outputting SD to tape). It plays back off the timeline fine, but when I print to tape, the only way to get it to print is to do an enire render of the entire project. Is this normal?

    2. If i do a dissolve from one clip to another, NOT butting two clips together and utilizing the transitions, but rather placing a clip above another one on the timeline and using the transparency rubber banding. This sometimes necessitates a render.

    Im using a Pent. D 3.6ghz processor, 2gig ram, and internal Raid 0 sata drives.

    Thanks for any input.
    NLE: PC, Gigabyte Motherboard with E6850 Core 2 Duo CPU @ 3.0ghz. 4Gb Ram. GRAPHICS: NVIDIA GeForce GTS250
    DRIVES: 4TB raid 0 array connected to AMCC 3ware SATA controller with 518mb memory. Other Drives: Seagate & WD 7200rpm 1TB each
    SOFTWARE: Edius 5.5, Adobe Encore CS4, Photoshop and After Effects CS4.

  • #2
    Congrats Poppa! Cigars!?

    Are you using HQ files?
    You should be able to do this with Core2Duo, but you need to render non-RT areas before P-T-T with Pent.D. HD needs way more CPU than you may have. (For now)

    If you're only after SD, down-convert from the camera for now.

    Rusty
    Rusty Rogers | Films
    >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
    >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

    An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
    Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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    • #3
      why use Print to tape? use rec to tape, simply place deck in rec mode and press spacebar to start timeline playback
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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      • #4
        Im importing the files from my P2 card/camera, which i believe are called .mxf files. So i would need to convert them to Canopus HQ format to increase speed/realtime?
        NLE: PC, Gigabyte Motherboard with E6850 Core 2 Duo CPU @ 3.0ghz. 4Gb Ram. GRAPHICS: NVIDIA GeForce GTS250
        DRIVES: 4TB raid 0 array connected to AMCC 3ware SATA controller with 518mb memory. Other Drives: Seagate & WD 7200rpm 1TB each
        SOFTWARE: Edius 5.5, Adobe Encore CS4, Photoshop and After Effects CS4.

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        • #5
          what is the make/model of tape deck you are recording out to?
          Anton Strauss
          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

          EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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          • #6
            richnation,
            In the Bin, Right-click your .mxf file, chose Convert>File... and you'll make an HQ .avi that's way easier on your system. You'll have to look closely for a quality difference.

            Rusty
            Rusty Rogers | Films
            >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
            >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

            An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
            Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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            • #7
              If you don't have realtime DV output enabled, that could explain why your timeline will play back, but won't export to DV because during the export it's trying to play the timeline and compress to DV.

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              • #8
                If you don't have realtime DV output enabled, that could explain why your timeline will play back
                How do u enable realtime DV output?


                As far as converting my P2files to Canopus HQ.avi, if I do this, i'll still have to convert everything back to .mxf files if I want to export back to the P2 card, correct?

                I'll give that a try. Thanks
                NLE: PC, Gigabyte Motherboard with E6850 Core 2 Duo CPU @ 3.0ghz. 4Gb Ram. GRAPHICS: NVIDIA GeForce GTS250
                DRIVES: 4TB raid 0 array connected to AMCC 3ware SATA controller with 518mb memory. Other Drives: Seagate & WD 7200rpm 1TB each
                SOFTWARE: Edius 5.5, Adobe Encore CS4, Photoshop and After Effects CS4.

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                • #9
                  in any case, this is not an issue with Edius or GV or Canopus, this is a simple limitation of firewire control, it was never designed to be able to preroll a tape in order to give a clean in and out, however if the user has some black on timeline before the show starts and some black at the end, then print to DV tape is fine
                  Anton Strauss
                  Antons Video Productions - Sydney

                  EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by richnation View Post
                    How do u enable realtime DV output?
                    Sorry, it's in the EDIUS Hardware Settings, under the Generic OHCI System/Output setting.

                    Originally posted by richnation View Post
                    As far as converting my P2files to Canopus HQ.avi, if I do this, i'll still have to convert everything back to .mxf files if I want to export back to the P2 card, correct?

                    I'll give that a try. Thanks
                    To go back to P2 you'll have to render a P2 MXF structure no matter what your original editing source is anyway.

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