2 hour dvd is 9Gb?

[STORMDAVE]

Yes, I know that.

[shueardm]

2 Pass VBR just makes sure that the average bitrate of the entire file is in check without getting bloated which can happen if you choose 1 pass.

[STORMDAVE]

Why would the source matter?

Because VHS is blurry and looks bad. Unless you're using a really cheap encoder and a very low bitrate, MPEG2 with even the built in EDIUS Burn to Disc option with its default VBR setting for a 2 hour timeline would look great.

If your source is downconverted HD or film (Just comparing Hollywood DVD movies here) then it will look much crisper, so you need to use proper bitrates and encoders for that.

[JohnnyD]

we are talking VHS

but we are playing the VHS tape ins an S-VHS player and TBC, you will be amazed what VHS can do

Exactly,,, I play the old VHS tapes in my S-VHS VTR, with Y/C out, to a DPS-290 TBC. From the TBC , I output component to the old REXrt. Great pic. And the DPS has Y and C noise reduction.

Edius REXrt still lives,,,, well, at least for 4.13.

And I've never had a problem with 2 hours on a DVD5.

JohnnyD

[antonsvideo]

S-VHS is a different animal than VHS. If you're talking about an ordinary VHS tape and player, the resolution is essentially Half D1 (352x480 for NTSC and 352x576 for PAL, respectively).

we are talking VHS

but we are playing the VHS tape ins an S-VHS player and TBC, you will be amazed what VHS can do

[Ron Evans]

My preferred route for VHS is to record to my Panasonic DVD recorder through a TBCIV TBC controlled from one of my PC's, playback from a SVHS deck. Use the flexible recorder option on the Panasonic to use about 90% of the DVD RAM disc. Copy the VRO file to the PC and then use in DVDLab Pro to author a DVD. This has worked just great for transfering all our old VHS and SVHS tapes to DVD with menus. DVDLab creates a MPEG file that I have also edited in Edius too.

Ron Evans

[THoff]

S-VHS is a different animal than VHS. If you're talking about an ordinary VHS tape and player, the resolution is essentially Half D1 (352x480 for NTSC and 352x576 for PAL, respectively).

[Blast1]

I agreem with Anton, I used to capture Vhs/C through a S-Vhs recorder and a Sima TBC, the thin heads on the S-vhs tended to pickup a bit more bandwidth, touching up the color slightly and a bit of sharpening you could come up with a very decent 2 hr DVD, prerecorded vhs tapes were even better, the bandwidth limitations were built-in to the older Vhs playback units

[antonsvideo]

you maybe amazed at how VHS can look when captured via S-VIDEO or Component from a good TBC with Y and C NR

[THoff]

Why would the source matter?

It's low resolution and compresses fairly well. The ADVC turns it into DV, but VHS source is of lower resolution than what the ADVC outputs.

With VHS source, another option is to create a Half D1 resolution DVD. I've put six hours of VHS source on a single-layer DVD this way, Half D1 is comparable to VHS anyway, so why chew up all that Full D1 bandwidth if your source doesn't use it?

[antonsvideo]

in ProCoder express, you click advanced, then reduce bitrate until it shows you a total at top of advanced ahows a bit less less than 4500mb

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/html/pce-dvd.html

[shueardm]

Also since your source is VHS, you don't even need to use 2pass VBR...but I would use it just in case.

Why would the source matter?

[swsw1550]

I just did a 2hr & 15min video of a mates band playing and put it on a 4.7GB single layer disk, left all the settings in Edius on Auto and it turned out great, played it back on a 50" plasma and just as clear as a hired movie.


Steve

[STORMDAVE]

2 hour DVD's look great even on DVD5, that is if you use ProCoder3 with Mastering quality and 2pass VBR with proper bitrates with AC3 audio.

Also since your source is VHS, you don't even need to use 2pass VBR...but I would use it just in case.

[THoff]

Use this bitrate calculator to determine the required bitrate:

http://dvd-hq.info/bitrate_calculator.php

For a two-hour program, you should probably use dual-layer media and/or 2-pass VBR encoding.