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  • HDV Capture Issues

    I have 2 systems:

    a. MSI 875PE, Pentium IV 2.8GHz, 1 GB Ram, Highpoint 2220 with raid 5 with four pieces of seagate SATA 2 160GB hdds for storage, and raid 0 using two wd raptor 36GB boot.

    b. Dell GX 620, Pentium Core Duo 2.8GHz, 2 GB ram, Highpoint 1742, connected to one wd raptor 36GB boot, one Seagate Sata 2 300GB for storage

    For both systems, with my sony HDR HC-3E and the latest update of Edius 4, when I capture HDV, I encounter error message saying hard disk too slow, or something along that line. I find it hard to believe that for both cases, I can't capture HDV. For both systems, I have two primary partitions, first is XP Pro SP2 and the 2nd is Vista Ultimate.

    Especially for system (a) above, I'm not sure I increase the ram to 2GB, will that help.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thank you.

  • #2
    I think the disk to slow error is an incorrect error

    I think you may need Dual Xeon 3Gig or larger for direct HDV to CanopusHQ capture

    in your case, you could use Mpeg Capture and capture to m2t (transport stream)
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS 9 WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      I have pentium4 3,2ghz and wasn't able to capture more then 5-10 mins to canopus hq codec. But when i overclock the cpu to 3,4 i can capture without a problem directly to canopus hq codec. The computer doesn't even have raid. Just 1 hdd for window and programs and 1 hdd for video capture.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by antonsvideo View Post
        I think the disk to slow error is an incorrect error

        I think you may need Dual Xeon 3Gig or larger for direct HDV to CanopusHQ capture

        in your case, you could use Mpeg Capture and capture to m2t (transport stream)
        What do you mean by 'use Mpeg Capture' and 'capture to m2t'?

        Are you referring to using 'MPEGcapture Utility v4.02 Released: 09/01/2006' to capture in m2t format? If so, is Edius 4.24 able to edit in m2t format?

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        • #5
          yes, MpegCapture Utility, it should be visible from the player perview window capture menu

          m2t should play on your timeline, you can also export the m2t from timeline to a CanopusHQ.avi, then you can do more realtime editing

          try it with a short capture
          Anton Strauss
          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

          EDIUS 9 WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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          • #6
            it appears things have changed

            go to player preview window menu and click Capture, then click input settings, then select Generic HDV, and there you can choose Mpeg TS Pal or NTSC
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS 9 WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              You will get more realtime editing if you use canopus hq. But since your computer won't be able to capture directly to canopus hq you will need to capture to a m2t file and then convert it with procoder express to canopus hq. Use mpegcapture to capture to m2t file.
              Last edited by robbin; 06-17-2007, 10:10 AM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by robbin View Post
                I have pentium4 3,2ghz and wasn't able to capture more then 5-10 mins to canopus hq codec. But when i overclock the cpu to 3,4 i can capture without a problem directly to canopus hq codec. The computer doesn't even have raid. Just 1 hdd for window and programs and 1 hdd for video capture.
                May I find out from you, your Pentium 4 3.2GHz cpu, is it the extreme version or the normal 478 pins HyperThread (HT) 3.2 GHz?

                I've tried looking for a 3.2GHz cpu but so far, I only found one that is 478 pins HT 3.2 GHz.

                I had also tried capturing with mpegcapture to m2t format. So far, less than 10 minutes captured ok. When dropped onto Edius 4.24 timeline in XP, can edit and add transition. If I try to export from m2t format to Canopus HQ in Procoder express, Procoder express doesn't show any progress of conversion and just stay like that for ages. I had tried after a reboot but still, it's the same. I also noticed that there seems to be a limit to the size when capturing to m2t format. Think it's 2 plus GB.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by zard View Post
                  I also noticed that there seems to be a limit to the size when capturing to m2t format. Think it's 2 plus GB.
                  there is no size limit - at least that's true when your drives are formatted to NTFS

                  I have a P4, 3.2 HT non-extreme with 2 raid 0 EIDE drives, and I can't capture HDV and convert to HQ simultaneously, but I can capture m2t all day long just fine.
                  Last edited by T-Bone; 06-26-2007, 12:18 PM.
                  Harris
                  edius pro 8.2, win10 pro x64, i7 5930K @ 4.4 on asus X99-A usb3.1, corsair h100i gtx with noctua fans, 32G gskill ddr4, gtx 980 4G, system 256G samsung ssd 950 pro M.2, swap 128G samsung ssd 850 pro, general use 512G samsung ssd 850 pro, video 4 @ 3T WD red pro in raid 5

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                  • #10
                    I just bought a Canon HV20 for vacation/home videos. I too ran into HDV captures not like the OP, but video brake up that cause many very small files with artifacts on the captured video. I tried both Canopus HQ "on the fly" converting and the raw HDV file capture with the same results within Edius 4.24 capture.

                    I started thinking it was a system problem with no results using Edius' capture. Reading this thread I went and downloaded MpegCapture Utility. It captured the raw HDV with zero problems. Since I have a Core2Duo, I also captured HQ 1080 60i "on the fly converting" with zero problems.

                    So what's up with Edius, I was using Edius' Generic OHCI HD 60Hz profile.

                    Coming from ScenalyzerLive I sure miss the date and time stamp on the file names. I did go a google search and came up with HDV Split which also time and date stamps your HDV .m2t files. Since I edit in SD with my DVStorm2 I prefer the m2t file capture then convert with ProCoder3 to HQ 720x480 with the Adaptive De-interlace Filter.

                    ...Angelo
                    Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
                    System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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                    • #11
                      Hea Angelo,

                      Your GA-965P-DQ6 is not having problems with Edius capture, is it???
                      Mine worked great with the E6300 chip.

                      Are your problems on another system?

                      Rusty
                      Rusty Rogers | Films
                      >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
                      >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

                      An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
                      Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rusty View Post
                        Hea Angelo,

                        Your GA-965P-DQ6 is not having problems with Edius capture, is it???
                        Mine worked great with the E6300 chip.

                        Are your problems on another system?

                        Rusty
                        Yes, with the 965P and Edius 4.24 Capture I get colored vertical bars in the captured image which is broken in to many files that are just a couple of seconds long.

                        Same system with MpegCapture Utility captures m2t and HQ files with no problems.

                        ...Angelo
                        Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
                        System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Angelo View Post
                          Yes, with the 965P and Edius 4.24 Capture I get colored vertical bars in the captured image which is broken in to many files that are just a couple of seconds long.

                          Same system with MpegCapture Utility captures m2t and HQ files with no problems.

                          ...Angelo
                          4.24 works perfectly on the same MoBo for me! >:( Very odd.

                          I tried the latest video drivers and my system went in the sewer. After going to the drivers that shipped with the card, all's been swell. That's all I got for 'ya!

                          Rusty
                          I'm using NX.
                          Rusty Rogers | Films
                          >TYAN S7025 - 32GB RAM, 2 x Xeon X5690's, 4 x 10k video HD's, Win10 x64, BM DecklinkHD, nVidia TITAN, 12TB DroboPro w/iSCISI connection
                          >RAZER BLADE - QHD+ - 16GB RAM, i7-6700HQ Quad, 512GB SSD, Win10 x64, GeForce GTX 1060 6GB

                          An inglorious peace is better than a dishonorable war.
                          Twain - "Glances at History" 1906

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rusty View Post
                            4.24 works perfectly on the same MoBo for me! >:( Very odd.

                            I tried the latest video drivers and my system went in the sewer. After going to the drivers that shipped with the card, all's been swell. That's all I got for 'ya!

                            Rusty
                            I'm using NX.
                            What driver version are you using? I'm using ATI v7.1, maybe I should go back to v5.13?

                            Another thing MpegCapture Utility only works correctly when Edius isn't running.

                            Thanks for the tip!

                            ...Angelo
                            Canopus/GV: DVStorm2 w/component-out board, ADVC300, Edius 4.61, ProCoder 3.05, Imaginate2
                            System: MSI B75A-G43 (v2.0), i7-3770K, 4GB, HD6850, Pyro1394 pci-e, 6 Disks 2.4TB non-raid, Win7-32bit, Dell 24" & 19" LCD

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                            • #15
                              Angelo,

                              I've also had a lot of trouble trying to capture HDV files into Edius.

                              Just kept stopping and having artifacts everywhere.

                              Once I closed Edius and used MPEGCapture OUTSIDE of Edius, it works perfectly, capturing to either M2T or HQ.

                              I suggest trying this first to those having trouble.

                              Cheers Vaughan

                              Asus P5WDG2 Core 2 Duo 6400.
                              Main Edit System ASUS Z170-Pro, 6700K, 32 gig ram HD Spark, Windows 7 64bit Edius 8.1 (Edit Machine)
                              2nd System Intel DZ77BH, 3770K, 16 GB ram, Edius 8.1 (ingest and authoring)
                              3rd system (internet & Printing station)

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