Using HDStorm with EDIUS Questions/Issues

[Seraphic]

Hi,

Using HDStorm with EDIUS 5.01, but having a few issues.

1st. When I go to capture HDMI video with eight-channel LPCM using the capture -> capture tab, it seems to only be recording one mono channel. But if I use the capture -> audio capture tab, it seems to record all eight channels. Am I missing something?

3rd. How do you enable HDMI pass-through during capture? I have only been able to get it to work when playing a clip on timeline or when outside of EDIUS using HQX-E1 Monitor.

2nd. I've been having some issues with 720x480p videos exporting/playing as 640x480p after doing print to file. I also have some issues with 1280x720p videos exporting/playing as 960x720p after doing print to file. Any help here?

Thanks

Edit: Think I found the problem for the 3rd issue and 1280x720p display.
It seems it is adding an (AR of 3:4) when it should be (AR 1:1).
I'll have to see how if I can find out how to change it on export.

[Seraphic]

Anyone able to help?

[GrassValley_BH]

#1, this is probably related to the fact that video captures to AVI, and standard AVI audio storage only supports 2 channels of audio.

#2, 720x480p video is not square pixel aspect ratio (PAR) and should display as either a 4:3 or 16:9 display aspect ratio (DAR). 1280x720p, however, should be 16:9 DAR.

Also make sure your monitor is set to the proper display mode... It's easy to forget - I recently was complaining about stuff on my game console being cut off, then I realized I had left my TV in Zoom mode. Oops.

[Seraphic]

#1, this is probably related to the fact that video captures to AVI, and standard AVI audio storage only supports 2 channels of audio.

#2, 720x480p video is not square pixel aspect ratio (PAR) and should display as either a 4:3 or 16:9 display aspect ratio (DAR). 1280x720p, however, should be 16:9 DAR.

Also make sure your monitor is set to the proper display mode... It's easy to forget - I recently was complaining about stuff on my game console being cut off, then I realized I had left my TV in Zoom mode. Oops.

Hi,

Thanks for the reply.

#1. So you are saying it can't be done? In that you are unable to record HDMI video stream and HDMI eight channel embedded lpcm audio stream at the same time to one video/audio file? How can that be?

#2. How do you set the aspect ratio when doing print to file? Just want it to export the file same as it was captured if you know what I mean.

#3. In regards to HDMI pass-through. Like I said, I have only been able to get it to work when playing a clip on timeline or when outside of EDIUS using HQX-E1 Monitor. But when I run EDIUS, HQX-E1 Monitor becomes disabled leaving me unable to get pass-through during capture.

[GrassValley_BH]

#1, I'm not entirely sure... but I believe the default AVI audio storage is uncompressed PCM, stereo... Back in the DV days, Rex/Storm Edit had an option to capture the additional audio as separate WAV file alongside, but I have as of yet not seen this facility.

#2, You can put the output file into GSpot to check. Just like playing on a TV, it's up to the media player to determine what display/pixel aspect ratio is used.

[Seraphic]

#1, I'm not entirely sure... but I believe the default AVI audio storage is uncompressed PCM, stereo... Back in the DV days, Rex/Storm Edit had an option to capture the additional audio as separate WAV file alongside, but I have as of yet not seen this facility.

#2, You can put the output file into GSpot to check. Just like playing on a TV, it's up to the media player to determine what display/pixel aspect ratio is used.

#1. EDIUS doesn't even let you run a video capture and an audio capture at the same time, so that idea won't work. Could this have to do with the Audio Channel Map (attached image)? Hoping someone can clear this up.

#2. I do think EDIUS is adding some kind of aspect ratio flag during print to file export though.

#3. Do you know if there something you need to enable to have HDMI pass-through during capture?

[Seraphic]

Alright, after some trial and error was able to get HDMI pass-through working during capture. And with the help of VirtualDub, get access to the 7.1 audio stream. It does seem that it records the 7.1 audio stream with the video, just isn't readable by most programs. This might be because as you said, the default is normally two channel. Still having the aspect ratio issue, but I'm sure I'll be able to track that down after getting the hang of EDIUS.

Thanks a lot for help Brandon.

By the way, what game console are you working with?

[SRsupport]

First of i think all the channels are captured.
Can you upload a captured file for me so I can help you?

There are 2 ways to know for sure if all the channels are captured.

[Seraphic]

First of i think all the channels are captured.
Can you upload a captured file for me so I can help you?

There are 2 ways to know for sure if all the channels are captured.

Here is a sample capture.
What two ways for checking channels do you know of?

Also, do you know how the channels are mapped when recorded or know how to tell which is which in the recorded file?
I.E which is: left (L) / right (R) / center (C) / left surround (LS) / right surround (RS) / left back (LB) / right back (RB) - ?

http://rapidshare.com/files/214392702/hdcapture71.rar

[redgum]

Alright, after some trial and error was able to get HDMI pass-through working during capture.

Seraphic, how did you do this?

[SRsupport]

This should make 8 channels easy

[Seraphic]

Seraphic, how did you do this?

To be honest, it seems to be auto enabled. I just double checked my connections and had pass-through.

This should make 8 channels easy

Thanks, that cleared it up. And are you able to export just the audio tracks once you have them on the timeline? Also, when you create a project, are you able to change the amount of channels? I was trying to change to 6 channels for 5.1 source, but it always stays at 8 channels for 7.1.

Last, does anyone know for sure when using HDMI pass-through, that the video passed from HDMI input to the HDMI output remains untouched/raw (i.e - the same as the HDMI input source)? Or is the on-board hardware Canopus HQ codec?

[SRsupport]

yes you can export 8 or 6 channels. But then you need to map for export.
(over analog you can monitor 2 direct channels out and over HDMI that depends on hardware. But here most people hook up an LCD with 2 speakers which limits dedicated monitoring to 2 channels)
I will make a pdf later to show you how to export dedicated channels out just as you imported them. Very easy. :)

[Seraphic]

Cool, thanks.

Also, the new project settings under Audio Reference Levels it lists -20, -18, and -12 db. Do those affect the audio recording levels at all or just audio on the track list? Or something else? Thanks

[SRsupport]

Those are reference setting when coming form a camcorder/audio equipment.
-12 db is mostly used in consumer devices.
-20 is used in professional equipment in ntsc countries
-18 is used in professional equipment in Pal countries