PAL video to NTSC DVD Settings??

[John_Glantz]

Hi everyone, just a quick question since I've been out of the game for a while. When I have PAL video and want to edit then export to NTSC DVD what would give the best results?

1. Capture PAL video to NTSC Project and export to DVD or

2. Capture PAL video to PAL Project and export to DVD using Procoder Express or

3. Capture PAL video to PAL Project and export to DVD after converting to NTSC using Procoder 3

[tingsern]

Best conversion I found is not via software - but hardware. Output PAL through a player, route the S-video signal into the h/w converter, then acquire the analog signal by NX card. Save you lots of headaches - especially lips synch.

[John_Glantz]

Thank you for your input but that was not one of my options. I ask this because I have at present a PAL video edited in an NTSC Project. This end video will be an NTSC DVD.

[tingsern]

John,

How did you managed to get a PAL video into a NTSC project in the first place?

[John_Glantz]

Created a new NTSC project and captured the video which is PAL. then drag to timeline.

[tingsern]

I am trying to picture this - NTSC frame rate is 2X frames (approximately) more than PAL every second. The frame size is also smaller. How does the PAL video looks like when you play it back on EDIUS timeline? Does the video looks okay? Is the signal still PAL or NTSC? You can tell if you have a broadcast monitor that tells you the signal type - and you output via component or SDI into the monitor.

[John_Glantz]

EDIUS converts the video on the timeline as I see it. It is NTSC on the timeline. The video looks fine. EDIUS is supposed to allow multiple framerate and multiple resolution at the same time on the timeline. I just want to know from the above options what would give the best result. I would like to have input from someone that has done this before.

[Imagine Video]

Hi -

The way I do this is as follows:

IF my source material is pal - I capture pal 720 x 576 25fps as normal.
Edit the footage into the end result.
Encode from the PAL time line a PAL avi file

Close edius

OPEN procoder 1.5 - because it was ace at conversion AND has no audio video sync issues that I know off.

Import the pal avi file and convert to NTSC MPEG 2 for SD DVD - Import into workshop and there you go.

Works flawless every time - Plus I have then duplicated the master 400 times for 1 job - and 500 for another.......with no complaints -

Pal to NTSC gives better results than NTSC to PAL via software in my experience

[John_Glantz]

Thank you for your post. I may have to abandon my current edit and proceed asx you stated only thing is I have Procoder 3 and 2. Is there any one that knows the difference between the above 3 options and which one will give the best results?

[NakedEye]

Hi John

This is not exactly your situation but we have just done the following with excellent results from HD source.

Source was HQ1080 50i (PAL) end result was NTSC DVD.

Source was edited in HQ1080 50i timeline and exported to 1080 50i Canopus Lossless no titles.
The Canopus LL file was then resized to 720 X 480 in VirtualDub with precise bicubic 0.60 (as per HD to SD settings posted by Anton & MS Video) sharpness added at 4

The resulting file was imported back into Edius this time into a NTSC D1 project where the interlacing options were set along with aspect ratio, at this point titles were added and final export was out through Procoder 3 (latest update) to NTSC DVD Mastering Quality Average 6600, Maximum 7300, Minimum 1500 bit rates along with the 709 to 601 colorspace filter.

The resulting quality of the Encore authored disc was excellent with no audio synch issues.

Regards

Dave.

[John_Glantz]

Dave,

Thank you for the info. While your settings are not like mine they did shed some light on possible projects for me in the future. Your response as well others is indeed appreciated.

[tingsern]

John,

Previously, when I have to convert from NTSC to PAL (yours is the other way round), I will do it this way -

a) Play the NTSC tapes on the player,

b) Acquire the signal in NTSC by setting the project to NTSC first ... into Canopus DV file.

c) Then I use Procoder 3 to convert that NTSC file to PAL.

Of course, I am assuming this is all Standard Definition materials.

[John_Glantz]

TingSern,

Okay, this is what I will do for this project, only using PAL for steps a and b. And yes, all material is SD. Thank you for all inputs

[tomokiboy]

I thank there are no perfect Pal to NTSC or NTSC to PAL conversion under software. (Boardcast quality)H/W is a good choice. But I thank Eduis is a best converter which not need rendering. I had seen before AE have some setting that it can get good result, but it needs rendering.
One important thing need to do is after conversion, do some color correction especially adjust chroma.